[BearsofLeon]

So I have now made my first army list with actual thinking about roles in play....usually i pick my fav units and charge... :laugh:

Now all I need is help through CRITISICIM
HQ:
Warboss:
Klaw, Shoota/skorcha, Attack squig, cybork body, eavy armor, bosspole

Mek:
Burna, Kustom Force Field, Eavy Armor

Elites:
10 Kommandos:
Snikrot, Burnasx2

10 Burna Boyz:
Mek

5 Lootas:
Mek

Troops:
12 boyz:
Nob with Big Choppa, pole. Big shoota
Trukk: red paint, riggers

12 boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole. Rocket Launcha
Trukk: red paint, riggers wrecking ball

12 boyz:
Nob, pole. Big shoota, shootas
Trukk: red paint, riggers

12 'Ard boyz:
Nob with Big Choppa, pole.
Trukk: red paint, riggers

5 Nobz:
Painboy, cybork bodies
3 big choppas
1 klaw

Deff Dred:
Riggers, CC wepx2

Fast Attack:
10 Storm Boyz:
Nob Big Choppa, eavy armor, pole

Heavy Support
Looted Wagon:
Red paint, riggers, Stikkbomb Chukka, 2 bigshootas

Looted Wagon:
Boomgun, shootas, 'ard case, armor plates,

3 Kans:
Big shootas

I have zero idea what the point value of this army is. :biggrin:

 

[KingOfCheese]

So I have now made my first army list with actual thinking about roles in play....usually i pick my fav units and charge... :laugh:

Now all I need is help through CRITISICIM
HQ:
Warboss:
Klaw, Shoota/skorcha, Attack squig, cybork body, eavy armor, bosspole
Looks good.

Mek:
Burna, Kustom Force Field, Eavy Armor
Id drop the EA and the Burna. Keep him in a vehicle at all times.

Elites:
10 Kommandos:
Snikrot, Burnasx2
Looks ok, although im not really a fan of Kommandos.

10 Burna Boyz:
Mek
Drop the Mek. Having these in a Battlewagon would help.

5 Lootas:
Mek
Drop the Mek. Consider getting more Lootas.

Troops:
12 boyz:
Nob with Big Choppa, pole. Big shoota
Trukk: red paint, riggers
Drop Riggers. Change the Big Choppa to a Power Klaw. Orks need as many Klaws as they can get. If your running them as Shoota Boyz then keep the BS, otherwise drop it.

12 boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole. Rocket Launcha
Trukk: red paint, riggers wrecking ball
Drop the Wrecking Ball and the Riggers. Change the RL for a BS if they are Shoota Boyz, otherwise drop it completely.

12 boyz:
Nob, pole. Big shoota, shootas
Trukk: red paint, riggers
Looks ok, drop Riggers.

12 'Ard boyz:
Nob with Big Choppa, pole.
Trukk: red paint, riggers
Nob needs a Power Klaw. Id drop the Ard Boyz upgrade. If they are Shoota Boyz then add a BS.

5 Nobz:
Painboy, cybork bodies
3 big choppas
1 klaw
Looks ok. Consider adding a Kombi-Scorcha or 2, and Eavy Armour would help a lot.

Deff Dred:
Riggers, CC wepx2
Never used them, so cant comment. Not really a fan of them as i believe Killa Kans are far superior for their cost.

Fast Attack:
10 Storm Boyz:
Nob Big Choppa, eavy armor, pole
Not really a fan of them. They will be targetted with long range anti-infantry (Mortars, etc) and die quite easily.

Heavy Support
Looted Wagon:
Red paint, riggers, Stikkbomb Chukka, 2 bigshootas
I perfer Battlewagons personally. Id drop the Stikkbomb Chukka as your going to be striking last anyway.

Looted Wagon:
Boomgun, shootas, 'ard case, armor plates
You dont want to give it Ard Case, otherwise you wont be able to assault the turn you disembark.

3 Kans:
Big shootas
Id give them Rokkits instead.

I have zero idea what the point value of this army is. :biggrin:

Looks like a good start.:victory:

 

[BearsofLeon]

The Mek will be with boomgun wagon (basilisk)
Drop stormboyz: check, I just like the models xD
I am using a looted wagon in place of battlewagon because of cost, i will re-count them and add wagons if i have enough leftover points.

The 'ard case is so that it isnt open topped.

and why not riggers? jw

also nobs are assumoing with armor xD

 

[laegim]

Yes open topped means you're more likely to get destroyed, but closing it up means you can't assault out of it and your burnas have limited firing points (depending on which way you were going with that). Your nobs really need to have unique wargear, otherwise its a waste. Nobs that can't play with wound allocation are throwing points away.

most people drop grot riggers because a trukk dead in the water is as good as a trukk dead. If your trukk stops, you probably want to pile out rather than wait and hope it starts up again. Also many people suggest NOT taking 'eavy armored nobs, at least if you're trying to shave points I'd look into that. Its only giving you a 1 better save than your cybork does, and given the things you'll sick your nobs on, there is a high likely they won't get armor anyhow. Lastly, you didn't paint one of the looted wagons; why is that?

 

[BearsofLeon]

Because its a gunwagon, it doesnt need to move aroudnd

 

[AngryCanadian]

I would still remove the Ard case & armour plates on the looted wagon, not for assaulting(because the boomgun negates transport capability anyway) but for points i feel its a waste

the Stikkbomb Chukka can only be helpful if the NOBZ are in the looted wagon as they have I4 on the charge, still not enough sometimes, but they are a total waste on boyz

Drop the riggerz, wrecking ball, loota's(or get more- 10min) stormboyz(or 15min with PK Nob)

Nobz leading boyz NEED PK's, I wouldn't put shoota boyz in trukks, so no B. shoota's or rokkitz either, dread w/ 2 skorcha's is cheaper

 

[BearsofLeon]

Okay, the only reason I would have the shoota boyz in a trukk is cuz they can drive around and shoot out of it.
Dred is purely for CC so I might have 1 DCCW and 1 Skorcha.
Lootas will be min 10 (I just gotta proxy or make more bodies )

 

[BearsofLeon]

Okay I modified the list...here it is

HQ:
Warboss:
Klaw, Shoota/skorcha, Attack squig, cybork body, eavy armor, bosspole
125

Mek:
Kustom Force Field
85

Elites:
10 Kommandos:
Snikrot, Burnasx2.
205

10 Burna Boyz:
150

10 Lootas:
150

Troops:
12 boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole.
Trukk: red paint
152

12 boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole.
Trukk: red paint
152

12 Boyz:
Nob Big Choppa, pole. Big shoota, shootas
Trukk: red paint
132

12 Boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole, Eavy Armor.
Trukk: red paint
152

6 Nobz:
Painboy, cybork bodies
3 big choppas
2 klaws
2Kombi-skorchas
Trukk: red paint
295

Heavy Support
Battlewagon:
Deff Rolla, red paint
115

Looted Wagon:
Boomgun, shootas,
115

3 Kans:
Rocket launchas
150

Total: 1893

C&C please :biggrin:

 

[AngryCanadian]

Okay I modified the list...here it is

HQ:
Warboss:
Klaw, Shoota/skorcha, Attack squig, cybork body, eavy armor, bosspole
125

Mek:
Kustom Force Field
85

Elites:
10 Kommandos:
Snikrot, Burnasx2.
205
should be 215pts
10 Burna Boyz:
150

10 Lootas:
150

Troops:
12 boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole.
Trukk: red paint
152

12 boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole.
Trukk: red paint
152

12 Boyz:
Nob Big Choppa, pole. Big shoota, shootas
Trukk: red paint
132
should have PK
12 Boyz:
Nob with Klaw, pole, Eavy Armor.
Trukk: red paint
152

6 Nobz:
Painboy, cybork bodies
3 big choppas
2 klaws
2Kombi-skorchas
Trukk: red paint
295

Heavy Support
Battlewagon:
Deff Rolla, red paint
115

Looted Wagon:
Boomgun, shootas,
115

3 Kans:
Rocket launchas
150

Total: 1893

C&C please :biggrin:

is a wierd total, you should drop to 1850(take a Nob out)
I would change all red paint to rams, except the BW i'd just remove it here

 

[BearsofLeon]

Why rams? I like the paint because I move faster. Also, the nob with the Big Choppa doesnt have a PK cause it is a shoota boyz mob