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This will sound stupid but if followed will help.

Ok I keep hearing about people who pull Bull Shite about my chaos guy can do this and my scouts get 5 attacks.

just do this buy 1 of each codex and read it and your problems go away. I own all the codexes but only play a few of them but NO ONE pulls anything over on me.
 

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yeah i suppose that is one way, or make sure you play people that have the codex's for there army and get them to show you the stuff they are saying. Most people will be more than happy then to show you there army book and point you to the wargear they are using etc... if not they probably have something to hide
 

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I don't play sleazy people like that. my gaming group is laid back except n tourneys. When someone cheats and is exposed, we ostrasize them (new vocab word!).

Whats the point of the game if you cheat to win?
 

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I dont just mean cheating the newbe players some time just dont understand what they have equiped so they make up what they THINK its saposed to mean.

or in my case some of the players where I go forget their codex and I let them barrow one from my codex library
 

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well its certainly not a bad thing to have all the codex books, just depends if you can afford to spend out the cash on that rather than new mini's
 

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true true but I dont have all those pesky SM chapter codexes like black teplars and such and codexes dont come out that often so its not to hard to keep up.
 

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I actually like to read the different codexes, so I do buy/own them all. The problem with that is I want to build that particular army afterwards.

In all seriousness, I have issues come up with a couple folks on a regular basis. It helps me tremendously to know what's in their codex. Anyone ever fought an illegal demon prince or crisis suits with way too much stuff? Good stuff to know. Plus, it will help the offending player so they will learn how to properly build and play their army.
 

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I actually like to read the different codexes, so I do buy/own them all. The problem with that is I want to build that particular army afterwards.

In all seriousness, I have issues come up with a couple folks on a regular basis. It helps me tremendously to know what's in their codex. Anyone ever fought an illegal demon prince or crisis suits with way too much stuff? Good stuff to know. Plus, it will help the offending player so they will learn how to properly build and play their army.
exactly what im saying...and yes once you have the codex you get this voice in the back of your haed saying "wow wouldent having that army be Coooooooool"
 

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Yep I have every current codex (except the new Eldar one) and each of the previous to that if there was one. It took a lot of cash, but they're all good reads (except maybe the Eldar ones :) ). The current ones I do my best to regularly check up on for anything that comes up, although my memory isn't the greatest.
 

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Rules at my old game group: No codex, no play. If you can't show where it says you can do something, you can't. I still have yet to find a problem with this rule. And then, for larger gaming groups, you could probably group-fund all the codices, then you'll have them all avbailable for rules purposes, and borrowing.

Most of the time, you should be able to tell when someone's pulling shenanigans with the rules, since it doesn't make sense or seems too powerful.
 

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I have practically every codex (except Dark Eldar+Orks) and can remember the rules by heart, if someone cheats I know about it, heck I know more than most staff members lol.
 

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Same with me. I don't sit and study the things, I just have a photographic memory. I'd much rather have fun and not worry about it, so if someone makes a genuine mistake, I don't usually call them out on it. If they're outright cheating me, on the other hand... that's a different issue. That doesn't really happen except in tournament settings where you don't know your opponent in a non-gaming context, though, so it's not something to really worry about. I mean, the most common form of cheating is overloading a model with wargear. I see more daemon princes with 110 points of daemonic gifts than you can shake a stick at, and I do mention that they're over, but it's not really a big deal in friendly games as long as they make it legal for the next time.

Knowing your foe is part of being a good player though, and if nothing else, the codexes are good reads for fluff and modelling ideas. I make sure to have my library up to date as much as possible with all of the published codexes and miscellanious books such as Insignium Astartes. I'm a fluff addict, what can I say?
 

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You wouldn't call out a mistake? That's bad, especially for newer playerss and genuine mistakes. If you don't tell them that it's not actually the rules, they won't know, and could as easily get into trouble later for not knowing the rules. If someone playing against me makes what I'd call a fair mistake, that is, a one-off, an easy misinterpretation, or a errant rule they apply to both sides, then I'll just tell them that it's wrong, and back it up with the main rules. If, though, they persist in doing it, or are using different rules that quite clearly convey an advantage to them only, I'll point it out much more visibly, and be prepeared for an argument.
 

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I'm referring more to overzealous measuring, forgetting to move something in the movement phase and realizing that the game depends on that unit having moved when they're going around doing their shooting phase... things along those lines.
 

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We have guys who know certain armies specifically. I had IG,SM and Tyranids under wraps. ANOther guy had orcs, couple had eldar. If you thought someone was BSing ya, you would just ask the other guy to get confirmation on something.
 

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i have the necron tyranids tau and chaos codexs all are good reads

i have read a few codexs and memorize things i might find important

if you have all the codexs then that gives you some strategic advantages such as knowing wat each unit is used for such as some dark eldar units that just about know one collects and u just always assume they r telling the truth cause only pros or good people play em cause they look gay and suck
 

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WarEagle said:
I own all the codexes but only play a few of them but NO ONE pulls anything over on me.
ditto but with fantasy army books though
 

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you could always buy a copy of Wargear. No p[oints, and doesn;t cover some pf the special rules (and with new eldar and tau codexes, it;s a little out of date) but it's stil a good reference for statlines weapons and wargear.
 

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if you aint got your codex tough, you can't prove squat and so will become as extinct as them.

Sorry your oblits are T1 and have a 6+ armour save.

No they don't!

Ok show me.......

harsh but fair.
 
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