Eh. You mean what a great 5th edition game 4th edition SM-Dex list...
AV11 is wetpaper bag thin. You're going up against Wraith Knights and Broadsides. 5 TL Lascannon shots will do zilch, and that's what... 300pts down the drain?
Knights aren't so much the threat when the enemy can bring as many tank busting points - they're the one major threat you have, and unless you can bring like 7 to the party, you're SoL. There was a battle report of an army that had 3 knights facing against a load of Orks. Orks have about the weakest ranged AT in the game, and despite that, the shit ton of rockets just brought them down.
Cheese is pretty much something marines cannot do, because they're so anti-polarised in their approach. Meanwhile, Eldar are so focused on doing one job that it's easy to stack bonus on bonus on bonus to one particular aspect, and force you to come to them.
AV11 is wetpaper bag thin. You're going up against Wraith Knights and Broadsides. 5 TL Lascannon shots will do zilch, and that's what... 300pts down the drain?
Knights aren't so much the threat when the enemy can bring as many tank busting points - they're the one major threat you have, and unless you can bring like 7 to the party, you're SoL. There was a battle report of an army that had 3 knights facing against a load of Orks. Orks have about the weakest ranged AT in the game, and despite that, the shit ton of rockets just brought them down.
Cheese is pretty much something marines cannot do, because they're so anti-polarised in their approach. Meanwhile, Eldar are so focused on doing one job that it's easy to stack bonus on bonus on bonus to one particular aspect, and force you to come to them.
