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Grav Cannons, Grav Amps and Hurricane Bolters seems to be a good loadout - it's the most effective answer to Riptides and Wraithknights of which I'm currently aware. It also mulches through Terminators, which admittedly are a rare sight nowadays, and still perform well against 4+ save models. Anything with a high toughness is their main target. Don't bring them against Daemons, though :biggrin: