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Just a question came through my head while making fluff for my Grail Knight who falls from grace, then ends up spending centuries in self exile in a crusade to rid The old world of evil.

Can a vampire or vampire count be good excluding sucking blood to quence there thirst? Can one be a good guy fighting evil?

Depends what your definition of good. Lawful to chaotic good no. Lawful neutral....no..... they seem to be pretty much Chaotic Neutral to Chaotic Evil. It seems the older a vampire gets the more they become to see themselves as not human. There was a vampire in the 2nd Vlad book that was White Wolf Knight

that had himself sealed in a cave with Vlad's ring (to prevent himself and the ring from causing anymore bloodshed), he also helped destroy the army he was leading, to spare the city

. There is the Ulfrika trilogy, I've never read Gortek but she mentioned working with them before she became a vampire, in the books she was a newborn by vampire standards, first book she was a week old and the third she was a few months old.

From what I've read vampires can range from seeing humans as food source but not wanting to kill them all to seeing humans as nothing more than animals and practice terrible farming practice that will undoubtedly end with the starvation of most vampires and extinction of humanity. I don't see any problem with a vampire fighting certain enemies, but the whole vampire hunter vampire..........can't really see unless it's to get rid of competition. I think of human vampire relations as sort of like the relation between humans and cattle....you have some that just eats them and don't give a flying bat where they come from, you have others that wants the guide them so they don't die out, and you have others that doesn't care how they are treated so long as there are more.

In the Red Baron book

it was revealed he attacked his brother because he thought his brother killed his wife and tried to kill him, but it was near the end that he found out that it was actually his brother's father in law that did all of it and that his brother actually protected his son who latter had himself buried within eye sight of him. After learning this he regained some sanity and stopped his second attempt to destroy Britonia.

 

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White Wolf Knight sounds interesting, any more fluff on him?

Do vampire lose all there human emotions and morals when they turn or is it just the thrist for blood which makes them go nuts?

Can a Normal vampire overcome his thrist for blood like the founder of the blood knights(yeah I know he killed a dragon and drank it's blood)

I feel like GW nevers answers questions in the grey zone.

He was the leader of the White Wolves but was turned by Vlad. It's been 2 years, I think he was named Jerek Kruger.

I believe so long as they aren't starving they can have human behavior. Vlad and Isabela were in love (OCD levels/ Romeo+Juliet style), in the Vampire war series

Isabela was devastated when Vlad was killed and overjoyed when he came back to life, when he was finally killed she was captured waiting for him to comeback to life and was adamant about him coming back to life and when a priest told her he didn't have the ring so he wouldn't she threw herself out into the daylight.

In Ulfrika trilogy she seemed perfectly human. It seems the older a vampire gets the more jaded they become.

Ulfrika, her grandsire, stated that 'as a vampire ages it needs to feed less'. At the start of the trilogy she had to feed everyday, near the end it was every other day.

I thought it was Melkhior, as he is the one that hid next to a sleeping dragon.....though Abhorish may of also done it.

GW LOVES grayzones.....if it's not clear then make shit up, believable shit.
Does anyone know an up to date wiki for warhammer.....lex is kinda behind.