[Mad King George]

Survive A Apocalyptic Blast.

 

[Hespithe]

Does the weapon utilizing the blast permit saves of any kind, or cause instant death?

 

[Mad King George]

its when a vehical blows up in apocalyptic blast... if its flame or melta im guessing he survives

 

[Hespithe]

If the blast is from the vehicle's explosion, and not from a weapon, then he takes the hits just like anyone else. I guess I'm not too sure of your question.

Explain the full scenario... The unit/weapon firing, the target, the result, and the proximity to the target for the Avatar...?

 

[cccp]

yeah, a little more detail is required. just for those of us that don't know, what exactly is an apocalyptic blast?

 

[Mad King George]

when a vehical is exploded on a penetrating hit in a apocalypse battle it suffers an apocalypse blast on a roll of a d6 and im wonder inf if my avatar can absorb this blast ie melta or flamers

the question is simple

 

[Triumph Of Man]

Does the blast have melta weapon or one of the two flamer types listed in its profile? No. Which means the Avatar's special rule doesn't kick in.

The answer is also pretty simple.

 

[Mad King George]

i dont know.. does an apocalypic blast count as a flamer or a melta ?

 

[Culler]

i dont know.. does an apocalypic blast count as a flamer or a melta ?

Seeing how it has neither 'flamer' nor 'melta' in its description, no. It's a blast like any other blast, just bigger (like from tank shells and frag missiles and mortars, etc.)

 

[Dirge Eterna]

Nope. Just a big bang and serious amounts of ex-Baneblade. This came up at my GW earlier this month.

-Dirge

 

[Mad King George]

thanks just wanted to know ... :-( dissapointed still worth using him as a tank killer though

 

[Dirge Eterna]

Anything that can kill something that Apocalyptically Explodes is worth it. Especially a 100-point Avatar (right? I haven't looked at the Eldar dex' in a while) killing a 500-point tank.

-Dirge

 

[Mad King George]

155 points but still cheap plus everyone fearless in 12"

 

[Lemartes]

Can a Avatar ...

























... paint his nails green ?

Lemartes

 

[Mad King George]

i dont know....kinda hard with his bloody hand

 

[DarthIbis]

Avatar would get his invulnerable save no matter what type of hit he took.
He would take his normal armor save if it applies.

I would think an exploding vehicle, etc, would not be melta... it would be shrapnel. :grin:

 

[Galahad]

As had been stated, no matter what the internal logic is, the Avatar's abilities only make him immune to Melta and Flamer weapons, because that is what the rules as written say. Even though being immune to heat SHOULD also make him immune to Laser and Plasma (which do largely heat based damage), nowhere does it say he is, so he is not.

Likewise, nowhere does it say that an exploding vehicle does damage as a Melta or Flame weapon, so he is not immune.

In reality, the major source of damage in an explosion like that would be the shockwave of the blast itself (not to mention all the flying shrapnel it makes) Just the sheer force of the blast would tear most things to pieces before the fire even catches up to them, if there even is a fire.

Hollywood explosions aside, a lot of explosions are relatively heat and flame free. Even in a fueled up, ammo-caryring military vehicle, any fire would likely be an afterthought to the blast itself. Whatever's left after being blown to hell might catch on fire, but that wouldn't be the real damage dealer.

 

[Mad King George]

As had been stated, no matter what the internal logic is, the Avatar's abilities only make him immune to Melta and Flamer weapons, because that is what the rules as written say. Even though being immune to heat SHOULD also make him immune to Laser and Plasma (which do largely heat based damage), nowhere does it say he is, so he is not.

Likewise, nowhere does it say that an exploding vehicle does damage as a Melta or Flame weapon, so he is not immune.

In reality, the major source of damage in an explosion like that would be the shockwave of the blast itself (not to mention all the flying shrapnel it makes) Just the sheer force of the blast would tear most things to pieces before the fire even catches up to them, if there even is a fire.

Hollywood explosions aside, a lot of explosions are relatively heat and flame free. Even in a fueled up, ammo-caryring military vehicle, any fire would likely be an afterthought to the blast itself. Whatever's left after being blown to hell might catch on fire, but that wouldn't be the real damage dealer.

Thanks .... he actually understood my jibberish of a post.

Thank you and i can also see your point.