[spitfire6x]

hi,
i have 2 cadian snipers in a special weapon squad.
However i have looked through the new ig codex and cant find any rules for guard sniper rifles! do they follow the space marine sniper rules? or something else

 

[Culler]

Sniper weapons are in the core rulebook. They all need a 2+ to hit and a 4+ to wound against anything. AP varies sometimes, so use the entry in the IG codex in the summary on p. 63.

 

[Mad King George]

Sniper weapons are in the core rulebook. They all need a 2+ to hit and a 4+ to wound against anything. AP varies sometimes, so use the entry in the IG codex in the summary on p. 63.

i love that rule especially when people have modifiers thinking it changes sniper rifles

 

[chrisman 007]

AP 6. Thought it'd be better.

 

[cccp]

nah, the main strength of a sniper rifle is he fac its easy to hit and wound.

either way, ratlings are a lot better snipers imo.

 

[chrisman 007]

Ratlings in a ruin+with the sharpshooter doctrine= overkill

 

[Triumph Of Man]

Ratlings in a ruin+with the sharpshooter doctrine= overkill

If you read the sharpshooters doctrine, you'll find that Ratlings can't benefit from it.

nah, the main strength of a sniper rifle is he fac its easy to hit and wound.

either way, ratlings are a lot better snipers imo.

It's not that easy to wound. Consider shooting a Sniper Rifle at a Carnifex with T7 versus a Krak Rocket at the same target. Sniper needs a 4+, whereas a Rocket needs a 3+. It gets worse when you consider a Rocket vs a T6 target or lower, even with an average BS3, the Rocket is effectively as good as the sniper rifle (4+ to hit 2+ to wound, as opposed to 2+ to hit 4+ to wound) with the added bonus of a much better AP, the ability to cause Instant Death against T4 and lower.

 

[Shirkie]

Ratlings in a ruin+with the sharpshooter doctrine= overkill

Units equipped with sniper rifles, including Ratlings, can't actually benefit from the sharpshooter doctrine. The codex explains it as, "the slightest inaccuracy ruins the shot."

EDIT: Triumph of Man beat me to it.

 

[spitfire6x]

thanks guys

 

[cccp]

It's not that easy to wound. Consider shooting a Sniper Rifle at a Carnifex with T7 versus a Krak Rocket at the same target. Sniper needs a 4+, whereas a Rocket needs a 3+. It gets worse when you consider a Rocket vs a T6 target or lower, even with an average BS3, the Rocket is effectively as good as the sniper rifle (4+ to hit 2+ to wound, as opposed to 2+ to hit 4+ to wound) with the added bonus of a much better AP, the ability to cause Instant Death against T4 and lower.

true, but it is more expensive than a ratling with a rifle. you also couldnt fit 10 into an army, unless you were really trying.

 

[Ubiquitous]

and you couldn't fit 10 rockets into one squad. It's better to compare a sniper rifle against something like a hellgun, where it outdoes it at long range but can't keep up the volume of shots at short range.

 

[freaklord]

i use a squad of ratlings and i really like the idea of them, but i can't really get my head around having a squad of snipers, or three snipers that have to be joined by three normal guys with lasguns. surely a sniper team should (at the max) be 2 guys, a sniper and a spotter. having a specialist weapon team of snipers is poor imo