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So here is my 1st go at the new codex. Same same but different really, I started with Dante and SG but that just were a bit too much. Thoughts are appreciated.

Will be playing 2000 points against SW probably and using +1 I grouping. They'll have a flyer, two at most (likely 1).

Game plan is simple, move up fast units together, hide Astorath and a DC behind a couple vehicle (cover at least or block most of sight), drop frag near infantry or modest vehicle if no other option (no convinced on whether HF or M is best, just put M for versatility at this point) and thinking about either fielding or placing cheaper DC squad in Stormraven. Small tacts at back with defence line for AA and general back field holding.

There is 5 points left but there is also some fat in the list (i.e a fair few options on units). I'm not to keen on large tactical squad, but just wanted some numbers up there (could swap to something like a cheap assault squad and some bikes/attack bikes/add cheap character/small DC/beef up existing DC's)

Again I think its okay but not amazing so thoughts would be good.

Astorath
165
Death Co
Plus 3
Jump Packs
Power Fist
Power Sword
224
Death Co
Plus 3
Jump Packs
Power Sword x2
191
Furioso Dreadnought
Frag cannon
Melta built in
Drop pod
165
Assault Squad
Combi Melta
Melta x2
115
Rhino (free)
Assault Squad
Combi Melta
Melta x2
115
Rhino (free)
Tactical
Plus 5
V Sarg with Pclaw and Combi M
Melta
Hflamer
Rhino
240
Tactical
Lascannon
90
Tactical
Flak ML
95
Aegis Defense line
Quad
100
Vind
Overcharged
Storm Shield
Storm Bolter
145
Vind
Overcharged
Storm Shield
Storm Bolter
145
Storm raven
TLAC and TLMM
Extra armour
205
 

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Cheers JAMOB for retyping and critique (had a powerclaw not fist but that's not important)

So I've focused on getting more squads in the opponents face with this revision. The RAS in the rhino will help others pop transports and dropping dreads. I am finding it hard to come up with large squads as command squad, RAS, Tact, Sang Guard, bikes and attack bikes all lend themselves to staying small (or investing a premium)

Astorath

10x DC (packs, PF + PS)
10x DC (packs, PF + PS)
Podded Furioso (Frag + Heavy Flamer)
Podded Command Squad (melta x3)

5x Tac. (ml)
5x Tac. (ml)

Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
5x RAS (2x Melta, Rhino)
5x RAS (2x Melta, Rhino)

2x Overcharged vindi (SB)
SR (AC/MM)

Thoughts?
 

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Okay so not heaps a love for that list (mech). I'm thinking about a drop alternative (substitute cups here I come.

My main confusion with this list was whether to substitute a DC with Sand Guard (less bodies no FNP) and whether to swap Sang Priest with a Librarian prop level 2 in term for Sternguard.

Thought

Dante

Priest

8x DC (packs, PF + PS)
8x DC (packs, PF + PS)
Podded Furioso (Frag + Heavy Flamer)
Podded 9x Sternguard (3x Combi-Grav)

5x Tac. (Lascannon)
5x Tac. (Lascannon)

Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)

Rifle Dread
SR (AC/MM)
 

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Discussion Starter · #7 · (Edited)
I'll think I'll try the following in the next week and just see what happens. I'll play with the a points a bit, but I have the models so its easy enough (except Drop Pods, I found 2/3 of a drop pod kit at home yesterday, which just sucks)

Dante

Libby - ML2 (With Stern prob divination, but codex or bio could work)

Priest - JP, Relic Ap2 Blade

6x Sanguinary Guard (PF)
9x DC (packs, PF)

Podded Furioso (Frag + Heavy Flamer)
Podded 9x Sternguard (1x Power Claw)

5x Tac. (Lascannon)
5x Tac. (Lascannon)

Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)

SR (AC/MM)
 

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So I ended up running the following

Dante

Corbulo

Priest - JP, Relic Ap2 Blade, MB

6x Sanguinary Guard (PF)
8x DC (packs, PF)

Podded Furioso (Frag + Heavy Flamer)
Podded 9x Sternguard (1x Power Claw)

5x Tac. (Lascannon)
5x Tac. (Lascannon)

Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)

SR (AC/MM)

Basically went too well to truly say it works (they conceded in turn 2), but:

- Corbulo and Sternguard dropped and moved into building near the centre and took out wolf things and two wounds off of lord in two turns (was about to be assaulted)
- Furioso dropped and took out long fang squad
- Tacts hid and survived a round of a grey hunter shooting (podded), combined with a RAS shot them back to pieces (then they ran off board, which was unlucky)
- SR took out their flyer (immobilized) when it had a large squad in it

They decided not to take thunderwolves so that would have made it harder.
I didn't take the lib cos I couldn't decide on the powers, I thought Corbulo's +1 to I and W and the FNP was just easier. Also I love hellfire so hitting on 3's and then wounding on 2's means they do a fair bit without the lib.
Probably just change one RAS to flamers x2 and hand flamers x2 next time, but not entirely sure.
 

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Sadly 30 points extra for a sgt is a bit pricy for me especially as he still isn't a vet. At least 2 flamers and 2 hand flamers cost the same as a combi and 2 meltas.

Could be changed to this, which has its pros and cons:

Dante

Priest - JP, Relic Ap2 Blade

6x Sanguinary Guard (PF)
10x DC (packs, PF)

Podded Furioso (Frag + Heavy Flamer)
Podded Furioso (Frag + Heavy Flamer)
Podded 10x Sternguard (1x Power Claw and storm shield possibly)

5x Tac. (Lascannon)
5x Tac. (Lascannon)

Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)
Podded 5x RAS (2x Melta, combi-melta)

SR (AC/MM)
 
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