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Could you offset the weight of the guns by putting ammo racks etc on the back of the 'elbow' past the centre of gravity. maybe with the top half of the arm leaning back a bit and the arm tilted up a little. Does that make sense? If not I can do a mspaint of what I mean :)
 

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Using a spooled up tube of 0.5 mm styrene with the seam secured with PRO Weld thinset works without resorting to counterweights; I want to employ counterweights to fine tune the balance once the beast is done. The entire gun barrel masses only 29 grams.

Thanks for the input.
 

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The gun barrels are basically done except for the detail. There was a lot of wrapping of layers of styrene.

The biggest problem was duplicating the bottle caps used in the original.

http://i.imgur.com/Iu2B4.jpg


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But the finished result is very gratifying especially since they weigh only 29 grams/one ounce each.
 

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Woo mamma, this is a amazing project! Love the work going in. Great pics and write ups.
I'm not sure your exact techniques, but you may find warming the sheets up under a lamp might help bending/wrapping them around the PVC etc easier. But you're doing a ace job at it however you're doing it!
Projects like these make the mind boggle, great fun! Rep+ well earned!
 

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Actually the styrene is pretty thin only 0.5 mm so I just apply pressure with my palm while drawing the sheet down over the edge of a counter. A couple of passes creates enough friction to heat the plastic and impart a nice curl to it. Then I wrap it one around a PVC tube of silghtly less than the desired diameter and glue the overlap seam and set it aside to dry for a few minutes while I do the other one. Once it is dry, using the Pro Weld Thinset I glue and wrap until I have the second layer adhered. I clamp the seam with a length of split oversized PVC and a cheap plastic 'Trigger clamp' you can buy at 'Harbor Freight' for about a buck:



and when it's dry its done.
 

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Not much going on today. I made the mount plate for the cannons and installed the keel reinforcements as these guns can't be solid or even wound barrels as would be for say battleships. They would have to be some kind of containment devices such as would be found in linear accelerators. Powerful yet light weight magnets would contain the plasma and focus it out the barrel to the target. Recoil would be out of the question for anything but the lightest projectiles and even these may probably have their own fuel supply such as with a solid fuel rocket.

http://i.imgur.com/LYLlV.jpg


An interesting note and something I was not aware of is that some battleship built before 1920 the main guns the 14 16 and 18 inchers are actually made of wound wire over a solid tube; Over 200 miles (325 km) of 0.25 x 0.06 in (0.635 x 1.52 cm) of high-tensile steel wire was used in the 18.0 inch Mark 1 . I did not know that. I had always assumed they were cast or at least solid steel.

Anyway note the thin strip of plastic collar at the gun base. The one on the left is affixed but the one on the right is just being started. Note that the starting end overlaps the centerline. This is because it's harder to make the end lie flat to the contour when gluing but if you leave a sacrifice tailing in the beginning you will have a smoother seam when you complete the collar. It's not really necessary on such a thin strip but on heavier strips it will save you a lot of grief getting your rings to stay put.
 

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Discussion Starter #187 (Edited)
You would think that by now I would be inured to the tedious aspect of scratch building but no. I am basically a lazy fellow and repetition takes a great toll on my abilities which is why I never took up knitting. So many times when I was building Lucie I thought F-----t why am I wasting time on these damned toes when I could be out sha-----g. Anyway the barrels are supposed to be mounted in box like housings and attached to the box like housings are more tinier boxes all the same size. Well it was a job to make all these tiny boxes and the two big ones weren't any picnic either as they all have to be as light as possible but while the rest of you slept I managed to get them made and now I am going to take a nap.

http://i.imgur.com/GwpEh.jpg
 

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The arm mounted weapons are basically done and I have to make the stanchions to mount them. My previously failed attempt at stantions was a waste of time and material as they didn't look right but I did find in my electrical goodybox a couple of variable degree connectors that look like they belong on a titan. I don't usually use prefab components but these have been kicking around for years since I refurbished a very intricate electronic control panel on would you believe a bakery production line.

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Yes some day as with Lucie I hope to make additional arms but as I haven't done it with Lucie yet I can't help but wonder when that will be.
 

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Has to be said, I'm totally impressed with your work here. Everytime new photos come on I'm sitting here going 'Man, I wish I could build something like that!'.

One day I'll build a warlord... And it'll look half as good! :) I may just have a child instead and coat it in plasticard!

Can't wait to see the whole thing finished! :)
 

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The child abuse aside ;) that was my attitude the first time I saw the DS Warlord I was halfway through the 'Lucie' project and I just wanted to chuck it and go balls to the wall on a Warlord titan. Fortunately I had these threads to keep me focused because I had a lot to learn about scratchbuilding before I tackled anything remotely as ambitious as a Warlord.

First test drive of the new Volcano Cannons seems to be satisfactory. The apparent size is acceptable and while they aren't bulked out yet they appear to be massive enough as well. The balance is spot on even without securing the hardware I dare say that when the rear components are installed this model will have no trouble maintaining balance even when bending forward. The items of criticism are: the carapace skirt needs to be trimmed upward, the stanchion mounts are extremely pose-able/aim-able but need to be shortened, the stanchion mounts need to be cluttered up with a lot of high tech paraphernalia likewise the guns themselves but overall it's an acceptable start.

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This is a wonderous piece of work. I agree with your comments about the weapon mounts. As for the rest of it, faultless. I am particularly impressed with the level of internal detail on the structure. Though for a project of this type rep needs to be applied in blocks of 1000. Aparently i have been focusing my reppage too narrowly. I will have to distribute some first.

Referring to one of your questions earlier regarding the strength of solid shapes as compared to hollow or open sections. It is indeed correct that in bending hollow sections have a higher load capacity per unit mass than solid sections. An I section weighs a fraction(less than 25%) of an equivalent rectangular solid but still has more than 75% of the load capacity. In compression however the solid section's load capicity is directly proportional to its cross sectional area and hence its weight.
The same applies in both cases to circular sections. In bending it is the top and bottom of the member that contribuites to the strength, most of the material in the middle is really filler.
 

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To keep the thread up to date a picture of the guns before I install the outer sleeve forearm shields. Sorry for the mis-nomenclature according to the information on the 'net these shields are called 'vambraces'



Apparently something Lara Croft might wear as well? :D

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I presume you're making the arms detachable?
I used variable angled electrical conduit elbows I had left over from a rewiring job I did on a believe or not million dollar, that's dollars not lira, Italian bread line. The control panel electronics for this automated Roll maker called a 'Doge line' were more complex than the electronics and wiring on a DC 9 commercial jet but I digress; these elbows can be obtained in various diameter from 3/8 ths to one inch (or more, I never checked it out) from Grainger Industrial Supply.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/conduit-fittings/electrical/ecatalog/N-8a2Z1z0r27o

I used the 1/2 version and they cost about $7.50 each. They are plastic/nylon, extremely durable and wonderfully high-tech looking. The ones I have were surplus from the job and going to be tossed so I grabbed a half dozen. I've been looking for something to use them on.

The rest of the connectors for the stanchions are from Home Depot also 1/2 inch and only a few pennies each and are threaded for easy removal.
 

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There's an incredible amount of superfluous detail on the main guns/cannon/weapons to apply calling for a moratorium on the overall build but I have to see how much space will be required before I can continue so................... here is where it stands as of today.

http://i.imgur.com/CtJE3.jpg


Note both these guns are the same size within a tenth of a millimeter, I don't know why they look so different in size in the photo!
 

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Last time I saw this...I think there was only feet. What kind of explosion of plasticard and glue did you create, to warp time Blackadder?

The Warlord is smashing mate, love the scale shot of the Imperial pilot and all the intricate details as well.

The guns do look a bit different, but like you said that the sizing difference is so insignificant, it surely couldn't? They look fine attached to the Warlord anyway, and I'm certain that no one is going to be looking for a 10th of a mm difference when they see this epic finished.

Keep up the excellent work mate. Have a motivation cookie!
 

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Gratifying indeed to receive an accolade such as this and much appreciated. The following tirade has nothing to do with anything other than my frustration in attempting to duplicate this Michaelangloean work (I hesitate citing "Leonardean" for fear of generating a sequel to the "DaVinci Code" at least a worthy one).............. :D

So there are a few (read very few) new images of the DS titan on the 'net. Considering that it costs virtually nothing to take hundreds of pictures anymore why only three of this monumental artistic effort but I appreciate all that I can find.

Geez can't someone take a decent picture of the back of this thing and try not to get a reflection in the image in the glass! Cripes how hard is that? Do I have to purchase a ticket to LA and take 'em myself??????????????

Anyway these are revealing pictures and expose new aspects of the work heretofore unseen and I am grateful for them in spite of my childish tantrum..................

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Fair point about the lack of decent photos. There should be more. Contact bigred at BOLS, I am sure they had some good detail shots of the beast for the article they did.
 

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I reckon you should call the titan Blackadder and then put a plaque saying "Blackadder goes forth"
 
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