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As I am super tired of going off topic on other people's threads, and even my own.

I'm going to give this a try. If you would like someone to give you a recommendation on a Black Library novel, post your likes and dislikes about what you're looking for. Someone then posts their suggestions on a or many specific books. You can also post about books you have already read and what you liked.

I have noticed many discussions that were kind of off topic about books and even genres, so I figured this may be a good place for those said discussions.

Well, I will start it off.

I am into some "bolter porn" as well as good development. I like twists in the storyline and some surprises. I love brutality and bloodshed. I've really only read about Chaos. I really enjoyed The Talon of Horus as well as Ahriman: Exile. I have also read the first four Horus Heresy books, and kind of gave up after realizing there's so many books to get to the end, and so many go off the main story line to do their own story line. (Also, my favorite character died.)

So, what do you guys have for me?
 

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I am into some "bolter porn" as well as good development. I like twists in the storyline and some surprises. I love brutality and bloodshed. I've really only read about Chaos. I really enjoyed The Talon of Horus as well as Ahriman: Exile. I have also read the first four Horus Heresy books, and kind of gave up after realizing there's so many books to get to the end, and so many go off the main story line to do their own story line. (Also, my favorite character died.)

So, what do you guys have for me?

Well if it's Chaos that you want;

The Night Lords trilogy is Black Library's best CSM series thus far, though the Black Legion series will likely eclipse it in time. But it has strong and likeable characters, a great story that showcases the mentality of the Night Lords and their philosophies, plenty of action with a unique Night Lords twist (meaning lots of dirty fighting and cheap underhanded tricks).

The Word Bearers series is another great one. Much more focused on Chaos than the Night Lords series, this is a series where the characters are unabashedly evil and cruel with absolutely no hints of nobility, honour or kindness; each book has great action scenes and the overall story of the series is a very good job, with each book having self-contained side stories that are also very enjoyable.

On the other side, Imperial, Deathwatch by Steve Parker has great character development with a cast that is just generally fun to read about. Very creepy and atmospheric scenes involving Genestealers and plenty of Space Marines crushing bugs with Bolter rounds and chainswords. It has quite a good story as well with lots of promise for future instalments.


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Well if it's Chaos that you want;

The Night Lords trilogy is Black Library's best CSM series thus far, though the Black Legion series will likely eclipse it in time. But it has strong and likeable characters, a great story that showcases the mentality of the Night Lords and their philosophies, plenty of action with a unique Night Lords twist (meaning lots of dirty fighting and cheap underhanded tricks).

The Word Bearers series is another great one. Much more focused on Chaos than the Night Lords series, this is a series where the characters are unabashedly evil and cruel with absolutely no hints of nobility, honour or kindness; each book has great action scenes and the overall story of the series is a very good job, with each book having self-contained side stories that are also very enjoyable.

On the other side, Imperial, Deathwatch by Steve Parker has great character development with a cast that is just generally fun to read about. Very creepy and atmospheric scenes involving Genestealers and plenty of Space Marines crushing bugs with Bolter rounds and chainswords. It has quite a good story as well with lots of promise for future instalments.


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Awesome, great recommendation!

I have the three Night Lords books, but I haven't started them yet. I do plan on it. I also have the first Word Bearer book, which is paperback, not eBook.

I haven't tried to Deathwatch series yet, but I have played the RPG and love the story. I also have the Eisenhorn eBooks, but haven't started it. I never had a love for the Imperial Guard, as I always thought them to be super weak compared to the other Legions. Though they do have strength in numbers.

Again, great recommendation! Thanks again.
 

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I am into some "bolter porn" as well as good development. I like twists in the storyline and some surprises. I love brutality and bloodshed. I've really only read about Chaos. I really enjoyed The Talon of Horus as well as Ahriman: Exile. I have also read the first four Horus Heresy books, and kind of gave up after realizing there's so many books to get to the end, and so many go off the main story line to do their own story line. (Also, my favorite character died.)

So, what do you guys have for me?
The HH-series has fallen behind as of late, and there is always good and bad stories. You learn which authors to have low hopes for and which stories you can ignore rather quickly. Otherwise check out reviews which might direct you in the way which to pick or not.



Well if it's Chaos that you want;

The Night Lords trilogy is Black Library's best CSM series thus far, though the Black Legion series will likely eclipse it in time. But it has strong and likeable characters, a great story that showcases the mentality of the Night Lords and their philosophies, plenty of action with a unique Night Lords twist (meaning lots of dirty fighting and cheap underhanded tricks).
I would recommend Lord of the Night prior to the NL-trilogy as it make several referenses to it.
 

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Simon Spurrier. It's one of the only two novels he ever wrote for Black Library.


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Excellent, I will be checking that out then. Thank you for the recommendation, Forkmaster.

Don't forget Storm of Iron!
Sorry, I missed you there, Pugnax. Is that a good one? I haven't heard of that one. Who is it by?


Also, so I don't double post, hoping someone comes back to this post. hah. Anyone have any thoughts on the book Deamon Worlds by Ben Counter.
 

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Excellent, I will be checking that out then. Thank you for the recommendation, Forkmaster.



Sorry, I missed you there, Pugnax. Is that a good one? I haven't heard of that one. Who is it by?


Also, so I don't double post, hoping someone comes back to this post. hah. Anyone have any thoughts on the book Deamon Worlds by Ben Counter.
No problem! :) Storm of Iron is good, and holds up even though I think the portrayal of the Iron Warriors is better in Siege of Castellax.
 

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No problem! :) Storm of Iron is good, and holds up even though I think the portrayal of the Iron Warriors is better in Siege of Castellax.
I don't really know too much about the Iron Warriors. I haven't thought to really learn about them.

Are they just augmented more then your typical CSM?
 

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Storm of Iron is by Graham McNeil. He is hit or miss for me, this is one of his hits.
As far as Black Library fiction goes, Storm of Iron is top tier.
 

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Storm of Iron is by Graham McNeil. He is hit or miss for me, this is one of his hits.
As far as Black Library fiction goes, Storm of Iron is top tier.


Awesome. Thanks for the recommendation.

I will be checking it out!

Anyone else need any recommendations?
 

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I don't really know too much about the Iron Warriors. I haven't thought to really learn about them.

Are they just augmented more then your typical CSM?
They are a very tech-based Siege-type of Legion. Their personality are like iron, and they consider Chaos as a weapon or just a tool rather than a deity that you worship. :)
 

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They are a very tech-based Siege-type of Legion. Their personality are like iron, and they consider Chaos as a weapon or just a tool rather than a deity that you worship. :)
That actually sounds like how I would use Chaos, personally. So I think they might be the better of the warbands.
 

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That actually sounds like how I would use Chaos, personally. So I think they might be the better of the warbands.
Out of the orignal Legions, I would consider them to be one of the better unified under Perturabo (their Primarch). The Word Bearers are up there as well.
 

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Perturabo? Yeah. He became a daemon prince after the Iron Cage. Lorgar, Mortarion, Magnus, Angron and Fulgrim are all daemon princes too and therefore immortal. Curze is dead. Alpharius and Omegon are anyone's guess as is their way. Horus is more dead than anything else that's ever existed I'd say.
 

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Perturabo? Yeah. He became a daemon prince after the Iron Cage. Lorgar, Mortarion, Magnus, Angron and Fulgrim are all daemon princes too and therefore immortal. Curze is dead. Alpharius and Omegon are anyone's guess as is their way. Horus is more dead than anything else that's ever existed I'd say.
Well, both versions of Horus' are dead, that is
 

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I do need another recommendation.

I just finished the second Word Bearers novel, Dark Apostle.

I really want to read about Loken again. I already read the short story about him, but I am thinking of reading Vengeful Spirit. However, I haven't read book 5-28. Is it going to mess things up, even though it's very clear in other books what happens at the end of Horus' Crusade?

Or should i just finish the series? I have been doing this recently. Reading the first couple books then hopping to a new book, than going back and finishing up.
 

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Well, both versions of Horus' are dead, that is
The clone is dead, but was never really Horus. Horus himself is beyond dead, he was completely obliterated and his very warp signature erased.

I really want to read about Loken again. I already read the short story about him, but I am thinking of reading Vengeful Spirit. However, I haven't read book 5-28. Is it going to mess things up, even though it's very clear in other books what happens at the end of Horus' Crusade?

Or should i just finish the series? I have been doing this recently. Reading the first couple books then hopping to a new book, than going back and finishing up.
I always recommend reading the entire series, and in order. But others will say you don't need to and they aren't entirely wrong. Some will reference events and characters of earlier novels, and you just won't get these references or plots if you haven't read the previous novels.
 
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