[warsmith7752]

we all know that daemons live in the realm of chaos but some slip out at times and apear on some random planet and generally try to kill whatever is on the planet. My question is what it is like to be a daemon do they feel emotions, pain, can they think or are they controlled by thier respective gods?

 

[Captain Stillios]

They are sentient yes but their basic personality is based on the god they follow.

 

[warsmith7752]

so khorne daemons like killing stuff, slanesh go about pleasuring themselves all the time, tzeentch ones make lots of plots and internesting plans and nurgle ones just give people aids?

 

[ckcrawford]

Aren't there different types of Daemons? I don't know exactly how the daemon world works, but I thought lesser daemons like daemonettes, bloodletters, nurglings, horrors, etc... are different from other daemons as their will is bound by their gods and they pretty much are mindless and don't have a will of their own. Correct me if I'm wrong. And then we got other daemons that have either been changed to daemons or have been created in the warp by centuries of souls being absorbed by it.

 

[locustgate]

From what I understand every demon is sentient, except demon beasts

 

[Baron Spikey]

Every Chaos Daemon we have any fluff on, with the notable exception of the Furies, is merely a parcel of it's Patron's own energy given a modicum of intelligence, personality, and free will- of course the free will part is hampered some what by the fact that the God can reabsorb the daemon at any moment, so they generally do as they're told.

Daemon Princes are in a similar situation, possibly a worse one- imagine what would happen if the God/s who let them ascend was to take his power back? Gruesome.

 

[Androxine Vortex]

Does every daemon have to be in allegiance with a chaos god or can they act upon their own accord?

 

[Baron Spikey]

Well we have the Furies as an example of non-aligned daemons so there is precedent for a chaos daemon not created by a God syphoning off part of it's power. For the most part though the daemons are aligned to a God and with the exception of very rare examples (i.e. Soul Grinders) they can't renounce their allegiance without running the risk of being destroyed, as long their actions some how benefit their creator though they'e pretty much left to act of their own accord.

 

[ckcrawford]

How about Daemon Princes. For example, Logar and Peturabo haven't alligned themselves with any particular god(so they would also be exceptions?) or have they?

 

[Baron Spikey]

I'm not sure how Chaos Undivided Daemon Princes work- is it each God imbuing the individual with a portion of their power? Sorry I know I'm supposed to be a fluff 'ead but I don't know

 

[Davidicus 40k]

I'm not sure how Chaos Undivided Daemon Princes work- is it each God imbuing the indiviudal with a portion of their power? Sorry I know I'm supposed to be a fluff 'ead but I don't know

Eh, good question. I think Chaos Undivided is more how mortals view and worship "Chaos", not how the Chaos Gods interact. I'd imagine that a Chaos Undivided Daemon Prince would take on the characteristics of Chaos as a whole - and since that can be represented through the Chaos Gods, the Prince would have powers from all of them.

Then again, if that's true, Chaos Undivided is obviously the way to go... so why isn't it the dominant mindset? Probably because Chaos noobs are too dumb to figure it out.

Edit: When I saw the title, I thought it'd be one of those "what's it like to be a daemon for a day" things.

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

I'm not sure how Chaos Undivided Daemon Princes work- is it each God imbuing the individual with a portion of their power? Sorry I know I'm supposed to be a fluff 'ead but I don't know

The theory holds that the chaos gods divided the individual into four parts. For example, blessings of Khorne will only be imbued on you upper right torso, and so forth divided. So if you displeased tzeetch, he would remove the blessings on your left side torso. Thats how it works... as so far as described by heretical texts.

 

[warsmith7752]

so is there an unlimited number of species of daemon or are the only ones you get the ones in he codex?

 

[Baron Spikey]

There aren't any species per say, the examples in the Codex and the models that represent them are very rough guides- nothing says that a Bloodletter will look like the models GW makes, they resemble in some manner the god they are formed from nothing quite as uniform and 'un-chaotic' as what is represented by those models.

I imagine there are countless daemons that exist we know nothing of, after all Daemons are the most populous 'race' in the Warp.

 

[Barnster]

The chaos gods have punished daemon princes before, look at Be'lakor in fantasy, That would suggest that daemon princes at least are still fully intelligent and sentient but if they stop pulling the line the wrath of the gods descends.

As far as lesser daemons, does it not vary on the god they serve? I really can't imagine a bloodletter having anywhere near as much sentience as a Horror. But it written that all lesser daemons are rather dim, that why the blue scribees go around collecting shards of the crystal staff rather than a LoC, as tzeentch feared that the Loc would try to overthrow him. The higher ranking the daemon the more sentience and free will its given

 

[Serpion5]

The theory holds that the chaos gods divided the individual into four parts. For example, blessings of Khorne will only be imbued on you upper right torso, and so forth divided. So if you displeased tzeetch, he would remove the blessings on your left side torso. Thats how it works... as so far as described by heretical texts.

Isn`t it also possible that said daemon prince gained ascendancy with the aid of a minor chaos power?

The chaos gods have punished daemon princes before, look at Be'lakor in fantasy, That would suggest that daemon princes at least are still fully intelligent and sentient but if they stop pulling the line the wrath of the gods descends.

As far as lesser daemons, does it not vary on the god they serve? I really can't imagine a bloodletter having anywhere near as much sentience as a Horror. But it written that all lesser daemons are rather dim, that why the blue scribees go around collecting shards of the crystal staff rather than a LoC, as tzeentch feared that the Loc would try to overthrow him. The higher ranking the daemon the more sentience and free will its given

Not necessarily. A LoC is naturally more powerful, it knows authority and would not overlook the chance to gain more. Blue horrors are described as argumentive and spiteful, but the scribes obviously have the wit to see the task through. Bear in mind, Heralds themselves ARE lesser daemons technically. Would you consider Skulltaker or Epidemius to be dim?
A focused mindset does not mean that they cannot think.

 

[Barnster]

I don't view heralds as lesser deamons as such, as I don't view daemons ever getting promoted. The heralds are created as heralds, and therefore are imbued with differing mental abilities than a standard lesser daemon, including more sentience.

The mental capacity of a bloodletter is around kill, kill kill, skulltaker is around who to kill, and how best to kill them.

 

[locustgate]

Errr...Sorry but what's and Loc?

P.S. From what i've read nurgle herald's are former humans who resisted him longer than the average human, so I would asume that they have a human lvl inteligence.

 

[Tensiu]

Lord of Change, my friend.
And if someone would be changed into daemon prince by lesser "God", he wouldn't be "of Chaos undivided". Besides, souls of those who couldn't decide which God to follow are either devoured by Warp beings or turned into Furies. Now imagine someone who would have enought will and power to stay sane, and to "feed" on other, weaker souls and lowly daemons. he might eventually gain enough power to call himself a greater daemon.

 

[Cruor99]

Lord of Change, my friend.
And if someone would be changed into daemon prince by lesser "God", he wouldn't be "of Chaos undivided". Besides, souls of those who couldn't decide which God to follow are either devoured by Warp beings or turned into Furies. Now imagine someone who would have enought will and power to stay sane, and to "feed" on other, weaker souls and lowly daemons. he might eventually gain enough power to call himself a greater daemon.

It's a little bit different with the Furies. They are created from the souls of the ones that constantly change their allegiance for one reason or another, such as the practices of the early days after the heresy by the Black Legion - which nearly left the legion in ruin, before the sorcerers found a safer way to perform daemonic possession and so forth.