[durian]

name says it all

Trying to find a new army to play (i know i already collect c:sp) and funnily enough like the fast shootiness of Blood Angels

(btw all the ass-cannons there because they are more efficient at killing anything under t7 compaired to twin las and las-plas)

ok heres the list BTW ihave bought no models so tear it to pieces

HQ:
Librarian with shield of Sanguinius, Sanguine sword, hand-flamer
= 100
Total = 100

Troops:
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
Total = 930

Fast attack:
Baal Predator with heavy-bolter sponsons
= 145
Baal Predator with heavy-bolter sponsons
= 145
Baal Predator with heavy-bolter sponsons
= 145
Total = 435

Heavy Support:
Predator with las-cannon sponsons
= 135
Predator with las-cannon sponsons
= 135
Predator with las-cannon sponsons
= 135
Total = 405


Heavy Preds are there incase that nasty 3 wraithlord list pops up or nidzilla or ULTRA mech. backs take out armour and horde baals take out horde and libby shield whatever he can

quick question are the side sponsons worth it on baals? they seem pretty insane against horde but meq the assault cannon seems better.

Durian

 

[Autarch-Andrew]

Like it alot should do fine

 

[Dallas_Drake]

Not bad.

Swap the TL-ACs on the Baals out for Flamestorm Cannons, you have enough TL-ACs & Flamestorms will allow you to Scout forward & eliminate any infiltrating/scouting mistakes, if you don't you can sit back & put Heavy Bolter shots onto whatever before you decide to use their speed to get the Flamestorm in range. Plus Flamestorms on fast Preds also make your opponents think thrice about getting out of their transports at all.

Actually I'd personally drop one of these Baals for 3 Multi Melta Attack Bikes or a couple of MM/HF Land Speeders, just to get some reliable melta in there.

I'm not sold on the 3 Heavy Support choices, something tells me they're going to have a very hard time getting LOS on much aside from the arse end of a Rhino chasis. I'd rather take a couple of Librarian Dreads to throw up with Wings & Lance, heck or even 3 regular Dreads with TL-AutoCannons or Multi-meltas & pods.

Dallas

 

[sanguinius noob]

vindicaters? makes target prioritisation a heck of a lot harder. and pie plates make people do the oddest things...

 

[durian]

thanks everyone for your advice
ive made some changes and have 10 pts left

HQ:
Librarian with shield of Sanguinius, blood lance
= 100(changed sang sword to blood lance and added a second libby for more shield coverage)
Librarian with shield of Sanguinius, blood lance
= 100
Total = 200

Troops:
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
5 Assault marines with power-weapon, flamer, Razorback with assault-cannon
= 175
Total = 1050

Fast attack:
Baal Predator with heavy-flamer sponsons, dozer-blade
= 140(chose flamer sponons as they are more effective against everything bar 3+ save(there still better against termies too)
Baal Predator with heavy-flamer sponsons, dozer-blade
= 140(same as above)
2 Attack bikes with multi-meltas
= 100 (only two so i could fit in another libby)
Total = 380

Heavy Support:
Dreadnought with 2 auto-cannons
= 120
Dreadnought with 2 auto-cannons
= 120
Dreadnought with 2 auto-cannons
= 120
Total = 360

how does this look?
Durian

 

[OldHat]

I really prefer the AC/Las Predators to those Dreads. They can move faster and are more useful. I would say toss in some Las/TL Plas RBacks, as TL AssCans are only so useful.

 

[Dallas_Drake]

Thing is Old Hat, those Dreads probably will get LOS with both of their guns, where as the Preds will likely only get LOS with their main gun, I'm not saying this is 100% always the case but I play with 5 Razorbacks & 2 Baals & I find that they block a lot of your 'backfield' LOS, Durian plans to put 8 Rhino chasis down on the table so it might get tough. Plus why pay for the fast Pred if it's just going to sit back & shoot all guns? Riffleman Dreads are cheaper & unless you plan on running AV13 spam I think they work better.

Also, nothing touches TL-AssC mid range, if you plan on getting within 24-20'' then they are mean. 4 x TL S6 rending shots? Yes please.

Don't forget Durian, those dual Autocannons are also twin linked :so_happy:

Dallas