[Dantee]

Hello. I'm both a new user of these forums and a new BA player. I made up 4 different 1750 army list but I can't simply decide on one of them. Also, I can't choose between the Furioso and the Death Company Dreadnought. Maybe you guys can help me with the decisions. Here are the lists:

List #1
HQ
- Reclusiarch - 130
Elites
- DC or Furioso Dreadnought - 2x Blood Talon, Drop Pod - 160
Troops
- Death Company (5) - 2x Power Fist, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter, Searchlight - 216
- Tactical Squad #1 (6) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 171
- Tactical Squad #2 (6) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 171
- Assault Squad #1 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
- Assault Squad #2 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
Fast Attack
- Baal Predator #1 - Assault Cannon, 2x Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter, Searchlight - 156
- Baal Predator #2 - Assault Cannon, 2x Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter, Searchlight - 156
- Land Speeder Squadron (2) - 2x Multi-melta - 120
The Reclusiarch joins the DC in the Razorback.

List #2
HQ
- Reclusiarch - Melta Bombs - 135
Elites
- DC or Furioso Dreadnought - 2x Blood Talon, Drop Pod - 160
- Sanguinary Priest (2) - 2x Jump Pack - 150
Troops
- Death Company (5) - 2x Power Fist, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 215
- Tactical Squad #1 (6) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter, Searchlight - 172
- Tactical Squad #2 (6) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter, Searchlight - 172
- Assault Squad #1 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
- Assault Squad #2 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
Fast Attack
- Baal Predator #1 - Assault Cannon, 2x Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter, Searchlight- 156
- Land Speeder #1 - Multi-melta - 60
- Land Speeder #2 - Multi-melta - 60
It's basically the same list but with the subtraction of one Baal and the addition of 2 Priests. I'm not sure whether I want to sped 75 points on one 6" FnP and FC.

List #3
HQ
- Reclusiarch - Melta Bombs - 135
Troops
- Death Company (5) - 2x Power Fist, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 215
- Tactical Squad #1 (5) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 155
- Tactical Squad #2 (5) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 155
- Assault Squad #1 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
- Assault Squad #2 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
Fast Attack
- Baal Predator #1 - Assault Cannon, 2x Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter - 155
- Land Speeder Squadron (3) - 3x Multi-melta - 180
- Vanguard Veteran Squad (7) - Sergeant w/ Glaive Encarmine, 7x Jump Pack, 4x Power Weapon - 285
Throwing out 1 Baal and the Dreadnought in favor of a Vanguard squad and a Speeder. I can imagine a scenario when most of my army arrives in turn 2 from DS and gets destroyed by some shooty units like Obliterators. The Vanguard prevent that from happening as they would charge a unit with the most firepower potential. It's a pity to get rid of the Dreadnought though.

List #4
HQ
- Reclusiarch, Melta Bombs - 135
Elites
- DC or Furioso Dreadnought - 2x Blood Talon, Drop Pod - 160
Troops
- Death Company (5) - 2x Power Fist, Land Raider - 400
- Tactical Squad #1 (5) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 155
- Tactical Squad #2 (5) - Sergeant, Razorback w/ Storm Bolter - 155
- Assault Squad #1 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
- Assault Squad #2 (10) - Sergeant w/ Power Fist, 2x Meltagun - 235
Fast Attack
- Baal Predator #1 - Assault Cannon, 2x Heavy Bolter, Storm Bolter - 155
- Land Speeder #1 - Multi-melta - 60
- Land Speeder #2 - Multi-melta - 60
Some guy at other forums said that I don't have enough anti-vehicle power so I decided to make this Land Raider variant. The 2 T-L Lascannons should help.

I'm positive that each one of these lists has its pros and cons but I also believe that one of them is superior to the others. Which one would you choose? Keep in mind that although I'm aware of the DC's flaws, I want to keep them due to the fluff and the awesomeness of the models Furthermore, which Dreadnought do you prefer? Any input would be more than welcome.

 

[Sanguinary Dan]

A single drop podded Dreadnought is just a 2 KP gift to your opponent. If you drop the Dread close enough to be a threat on turn 2 it's going to get killed on turn 1. And if you drop it far enough away to be safe why waste 35 points?

Lose the 5-6 man Tactical Squads. If you can't make them 10 men don't bring them. And un-equipped Sergeants? Not in a Blood Angels' army my friend. :nono: At the very least they should have power weapons. And you don't need pintle Storm Bolters unless you've got nothing else to spend points on. They are bonus toys and actually should come a distant second to HK missiles for Razorbacks.

Death Company need power weapons. A single Fist is plenty. Unless you have more than 5 DC anyway.

Otherwise you'll just need to try the combos of units and see what works for you. But certainly consider adding a Librarian or Furioso Librarian.

So to answer your original question I wouldn't choose any of the above lists. Though with some minor tweaks any of your lists is viable.