Engelus said:
current rules dictate that ap1 does not penetrate a speeder moving fast, which is completely dumb. I score a penetrating hit on a vehicle about once every 10 games because of this rule, its quite annoying actually. the trade off for not having a flying manuverable vehical should be a tank that is really durable, but in practice tanks (and especially dreadnoughts) are fragile whisps of tinfoil.
It's because you apply them in order as follows.
You hit and score a glancing result with a Ap1 weapon, it is then "upgraded" to a penetrating hit. After that if it is a skimmer moving fast its downgraded to glancing as of the moving fast rule.
Don't see this being unclear or illogical.
Skimmers have too move around constantly and can't use cover as tanks can. The problem with skimmers is that if you get immobilized it crashes.
I would say that the non skimmer vehicles is to weak, but that does not mean that skimmers are to good. And on of the problems is the AP 1 always penetrating rule and that hull-down got so much worse in 4ed compared to 3ed.