[Mad King George]

can a apothecary save more than 1 model a turn.
it says it can ignore the first failed save of a treatable model a turn

it says once per turn the apothecary can use his skills to ignore a failed save on a treatable model so is that every treatable model or just 1. hence

i get 30 wounds on my 10 man squad
i save 15 of them 10 are ignored but 5 die ?

 

[torealis]

The FIRST unsaved wound. One per turn. Player turn that is.

thread moved. ask rules questions in rules questions forum.

 

[Mad King George]

so only one ... ? that sucks

 

[Ubiquitous]

But it makes sense, and it keeps the game balanced. If an apothicary could make you pass all your first failed saves a turn, you could basically make a squad invincible for a mere 25pts.

 

[Mad King George]

lol yeah >_< i guess 1 is better than nothing but the ignore the losses for moral check sucks for wolves because we ignore them anyway..sigh

 

[Mad King George]

The FIRST unsaved wound. One per turn. Player turn that is.

thread moved. ask rules questions in rules questions forum.

it says 1 per turn not player turn

so
opponents turn

1 failed in shooting saved
1 failed in combat saved

my turn

1 failed in shooting saved
1 failed in combat saved

 

[torealis]

that would be per phase. its once per player turn.

 

[dakari-mane]

but the ignore the losses for moral check sucks for wolves because we ignore them anyway..sigh

Uh no you dont. Space wolves taking 25% casualties can run like girls just like every other marine.

 

[Mad King George]

well my 13 blood claws with rune priest and wolf priest = leadership 10

or 8 claws wolf priest and rune priest = leadership 10

so unless i roll a double 6 of a 5 + 6 im ok.

space wolves have no matter the odds.

and since i'm in combat before i loose any men i'm fine or i may loose a few if i come out of a rhino but still be ok in some games but out of a crusader im always fine

i only need healing potions and balms since the fang of morkai is pointless now in SM rules for SW

 

[Lemartes]

No matter the odds lets you ignore beeing outnumbered modifications in close combat. Doesn't work on shooting, below half and Tyranid Chorus still works on us.

It's a shame we ain't got no fearless unit.

 

[Mad King George]

blood claws should be fearless they act like mindless creatures when not lead by a IC

 

[Ordo Xeno Commander]

back on topic, i saw someone mention 1 failed save in combat. apothecaries do not work in combat, they cannot save anyone if they or their squad is engaged in combat.

 

[Deceiver]

great to have 1 within 6" of all your termie sqd. guys.
also cannot use ability if falling back,pinned,cc wpns that ignore armor saves or from instant death.

 

[Mad King George]

back on topic, i saw someone mention 1 failed save in combat. apothecaries do not work in combat, they cannot save anyone if they or their squad is engaged in combat.

they can save someone in combat if they are not in base to base contact with a enemy

 

[cccp]

also, anyone killed from shooting within 6 inches of the apothacary do not count towards the leadership roll at the end of the phase.

 

[Deceiver]

MKG-- I refer to sm codex. Wargear. Narthecium Reductor.
"In order to use this eqt.,the pothecary CANNOT be falling back,LOCKED in CLOSE CMBT, or pinned."

definition of engaged in cmbt--models in base to base contact and all those within 2" of models in base to base contact.

definition of locked in combat-- rest of unit is locked and subject to the outcome of close combat.

Now I know you will say that means he can use it if he is engaged but not locked.
However,if he cannot use it if locked then he certainly cannot use it if he is actually fighting in the combat. The gw hotline will confirm that.

And CCCP adds in the final part of the Apothecary ability. Thanks.

 

[Mad King George]

but he cant be locked into combat can he if hes a IC in a squad ? or can he

 

[martin4696]

i think you are correct about that as in combat they count as seperate but what IC can have one???

 

[Mad King George]

wolf priest

so rune priest and wolf priest jump into combat with 8 or 13 blood claws

rune priest kills a few
wolf priest kills a few

wolf priest is now not in base to base combat with any model or within 2".

blood claws and marines strike together
8-12 pw or pf attacks marines die

40-24 normal attacks

and yay i get to save 1 guy

 

[martin4696]

ow fair enougth true but surly you will want him in the thick of the fight wooping sum ass rather than couwering at the back healing the odd marine.

but yes i see nothing wrong with that.