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from warseer. take with a rather large grain of salt.

Apocalypse Rules:

Rules for games of 3000+ points

Some say it’s a Huge book (almost if not as big as the Rulebook)
Others say it’s as big as Cities of Death
Some have mentioned the possibility of multiple editions

Super-heavy tank rules. Most say they are in the main book. Some say they could be in a future supplement. They will supposedly work almost exactly the same way as in the Forge World books, but it’s been reported they “tend to explode in a more spectacular fashion”.

Some say Fliers didn’t make the cut, whilst others insist they are in the book including the Thunder Hawk, the Lightning and the Valkyrie and that they now do not leave the table.

Hydra Flack Tanks (and possibly other AA options) are supposedly in the book

Games will reportedly not use the FOC and possibly not Points limits

Some insist points are still used and that a player with fewer points can restore balance through using extra stratagems

An Orbital Bombardment with 6 linked Ordinance templates (or a special new template) has been mentioned as a possible stratagem

Some rules simplifications have been hinted at, such as any weapon of S7+ ignores armour saves entirely

Taking “Formations” of units could reportedly provide in-game bonuses. For example:
-10 Leman Russ tanks earns you a command tank that helps to ignore crew shaken/stunned effects
-A triangle of 3 (some say up to 5) Necron monoliths generate a field protecting whatever is inside in some way.
-Imperial Guard can field Ogryn Auxiliary Companies, consisting of 3 squads of 5 Ogryns, giving the player a free command squad, and commissars may be attached directly to the units.
-SM Land Speeders can act as “spotters” for Whirlwinds, giving them unlimited range.
-Special Markerlight options for squadrons of 3 + hammerheads
These options might come in the form of stratagems
-Space Marine Counsel with individual members suppling bonuses such as flanking manoeuvres etc.
-Bonesinger may get rules
- Tau may get a formation of one command unit, and body guard. 3 crisis suit units, and a number of stealth suites.
-Marines may be able to take 3 vindicators as a unit allowing them to target the same point, getting a 10 inch template.

New Baneblade done, painted and being used in Studio games
Some say it is 1 inch larger than the FW one all round. Some say 1 inch smaller.
Reports tell of 3 additional variants:
- Different turret option (some say Yarrick’s personal Baneblade)
- Chaos (some say Nurgle specific)
- Ork
The hull has supposedly been designed with empty sections to make it easier to convert

Ork Stompa
A large kit by Aly Morrison. Reportedly 8 Sprues
Supposedly put on hold until they can work out how to get it onto fewer sprues.

Drop Pods
The usual “problems in production” excuse. Expect to see as a later release maybe with the Blood Angels or Space Wolves Codex whenever they come.
Supposedly there are 3 options
- Standard
- Deathwind
- Dreadnought

Not much known. A possible future release.

A model was seen, but never intended for release. It was made to test the large model production systems.
It’s a possible future release if sales of other large models are good, as they already have it scanned into the computer.

Space Marine Battle Company
Includes parts for the following:
- 6 Tactical squads
- 2 Assault Squads
- 2 Devastator Squads
- Command Squad
- Dreadnought
- Land Raider
- Predator
- "Extra stuff" like decals
comes in a big wooden crate
Possibility of a bigger, direct-only box containing the sprues for 400+ marines but with just the sprues.

There is also talk of other Multi-tank boxes.

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hehe, yeah, but none of em play guard. they're all obedient little space marines, just like GW tells em to be. Plus, they'd just be like, "ZOMZ! Uber death tank!"

And I'd drop an orbital strike on them. And send them crying to their ATMs. I mean, parents.

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The plastic baneblade does exists, my mate has played a game with several of them and says that the tanks, and the rules over all are awesome.

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Some insist points are still used and that a player with fewer points can restore balance through using extra stratagems
At the developers booth during Gamesday Canada this was EXACTLY what Gav Thorpe told me. I asked about point values and he told me both players could use whatever values they wanted to bring which led me to ask what happens if I show up with 3000pts of Chaos and my opponent has 6000pts of Eldar. Answer was, and I quote, "lol you are going to have a shitload of strategems then". According to him, the strategems are going to be in the game in order to balance out the differences in armies that will be there due to the lack of FOC and point limits.
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