on Friday the fifth, oct. 2007, I had my first Apocalypse game. Thats right, before the actual Apocalypse came out! but my friends at GW let us (my friends and I) use it... anyway to the point - I faced a guard army that had a Vanquisher Super Heavy and a Titan, two Earthshakers, and LOTS of tanks - i was using Marines with NO forge world or special models, with a Tau Ally. So, if anyone needs tactics like taking out titans, What to target first, etc. or anything to do with Apocalypse, post it here and ill try my best to answer questions! Post away!