[Vortrex]

Hey guys,

So I was thinking...

Daemon Prince w/ WarpTime and wings

Obliterator

5 man Zerks with champion w/ PW

5 man Zerks with champion w/ PW

Sadly this would require me to really use cover very carefully with my zerks while the prince laid down the initial assault tying up a firing squad hopefully.

Any other ideas?

PS I really want to get away from the lash prince as everyone is expecting it.

Thanks!

 

[World Eater]

Hail,

I am running a very similar 500 point army as well.
I would drop the Obliterator for 2 rhinos for your Berzerkers. This way, the whole army can move 12" together. Besides, Berzerkers on foot usually don't get very far and hiding in cover is very unfluffy.

BFTBG!!

World Eater

 

[Vortrex]

Also while your here, the game may be changed to 750 pts. In which I will choose...

DP w/ wings, MoS and Warptime
Obliterator
10 zerks w/ champ and PW
10 zerks w/ champ and PW
Rhino

Now it should be noted the army I'm facing has only def koptas so now real heavy vehicles that require meltas or anything.

Thanks

 

[bixeightysix]

500 points is so tough to work with IMO...I mean, then again small games are fun and quick. I like World Eater's Advice. Although I think having an Oblit and a Prince in a 500 point game would be pretty good to have. Going with that...I might do something a little more like this...

DP w/Wings and Warptime

5 Khorne Beserkers w/Skull Champ and PW in a Rhino

6 Chaos Space Marines w/IoCG

1 Obliterator

I would have the Prince and Zerkers run up the field and scare the crap out of the opponent while the Obliterator gives firing support. The CSMs are for holding a home objective. That's how I would run it...but like I said, doing away with the oblit and having 2 rhinos with Zerkers would be nice, too. Good Luck!

 

[bixeightysix]

Also while your here, the game may be changed to 750 pts. In which I will choose...

DP w/ wings, MoS and Warptime
Obliterator
10 zerks w/ champ and PW
10 zerks w/ champ and PW
Rhino

Now it should be noted the army I'm facing has only def koptas so now real heavy vehicles that require meltas or anything.

Thanks

In that case...hrmm....I would run a little something like this...

DP w/MoN, Wings, Warptime
8 Zerkers including Skull Champ w/PW (Rhino w/EA)
7 Plague Marines w/2 Flamer including a Plague Champ w/PF (Rhino)
1 Obliterator

Zerkers do best in squads of 8. You'll definitely want a Rhino w/EA for them so they can get into combat ASAP. I love Nurgle Princes with Warptime...they are just too tough! I would also take Plague Marines for holding an objective...since you know you're playing Orks...I would choose flamers...although Plasmaguns are good on these guys, too with their Feel No Pain.

 

[Flame80010]

Either powerfist on the Skullchamps or dont even bother taking them IMHO :3

other then that its all fine

 

[bixeightysix]

Either powerfist on the Skullchamps or dont even bother taking them IMHO :3

other then that its all fine

Yeah, that's definitely a valid point. But I figure...why have a Skull Champ swinging at Initiative 1? And in a small game, he's probably not going to be facing much heavy armor...so why not get those 5 more attacks on the the charge with your normal Zerkers? Just some food for thought...both PWs and PFs have their pros and cons. :grin:

 

[Flame80010]

40 points for atatcks that ignore armor
or 50 points for one less attack at S8(9) and also ignore armor

even if hes not facing armor the powerfist is going to be much better as it will wound everything on 2's

Lets say he faces Nid's who will have atleast 1 T6 MC, he will need to fist it

and the rest of the bserkers will make sure your not going to get hit abck to much I 4(5)

 

[bixeightysix]

Yeah, you make a good point. I dunno...I just usually run mine with PWs. But in a small game, yeah...maybe you'll need as much heavy hitting as possible. I just figure (hopefully) if you run into something nasty like that, your Prince or Oblit can take care of it.

 

[Flame80010]

the Powerfist still gets 3 attacks when not charging (4 when it does <3) which is basicly 4 lascannon shots on the charge

its funny when the belivers run close to your Zerker's you charge them then suddenly their squad dies and their 150 point char dies to a 60 point Berserker with a Fist

 

[ROT]

Sadly this would require me to really use cover very carefully with my zerks while the prince laid down the initial assault tying up a firing squad hopefully.

Thanks!

What the hell do you expect an ork army to have in a 500 point list thats going to rape you unless you have cover.

That why i don't really play less than 1000, theres not really any tactics to it. :\

 

[bixeightysix]

What the hell do you expect an ork army to have in a 500 point list thats going to rape you unless you have cover.

This made me laugh. :laugh:

Flame, your points are valid...maybe I should rethink not going with Fists...but I guess I've never needed em...I'll have to give em a try and see how well they fare!

 

[Primarch Lorgar]

the only place I run PWs is on plague marines cause the sculpt is so awsome!:victory: