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I just had an epiphany.

Would it not be equally plausible for GW to leak a false rumor of a price increase to hype people into buying their overpriced crap* while it's still "cheap"?

*note that I only use "crap" here to emphasize the word "overpriced."
 

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I just had an epiphany.

Would it not be equally plausible for GW to leak a false rumor of a price increase to hype people into buying their overpriced crap* while it's still "cheap"?

*note that I only use "crap" here to emphasize the word "overpriced."
I don't know if I would leak a false price hike. If anything I would leak a false discontinuation. People would buy the models up like hotcakes. All a false price hike is going to do is make people agitated.
 

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dont know why it suprises me every year that people make a massive fuss over the fact theres a price rise. It happens every year people get over it already
 

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It will come im sure of it. Just think of all the new releases in june on like new rule book which we will have to have we will be ripped again. LOl imagine if players world wide stopped buying for one month and see how GW would manage then.
i was a gw store seller but i gave up as i can buy stuff from the states full retail at the same i would buy wholesale that just stinks
 

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dont know why it suprises me every year that people make a massive fuss over the fact theres a price rise. It happens every year people get over it already
I don't know either. Why -does- it surprise you that people make a fuss over a price hike? e.e

it's not just inflation anymore. It's just plain cruel.
 

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I don't know if I would leak a false price hike. If anything I would leak a false discontinuation. People would buy the models up like hotcakes. All a false price hike is going to do is make people agitated.
that makes more sense. It's a wonder that they didn't get enough revenue from people urgently buying up on their soon-to-be-discontinued metal models when finecast was announced to off-set their lost sales from how terribly they're treating their consumers in the US and in Australia (admittedly, australia got the shorter of the two short ends of the stick here)
 

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i was told by a store manager the ozzies prices are set to keep the stores open in all theses big shopping centres.i was in one the other day and by 4pm they sold one bottle of paint.
 

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i was told by a store manager the ozzies prices are set to keep the stores open in all theses big shopping centres.i was in one the other day and by 4pm they sold one bottle of paint.
and THERE'RE some of their lost sales right there.
 

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yes it sucks ass, nobody wants to pay more, price rises are normal in retail,they are a business,sucks to live down under,the world has ended, im selling up and playing (insert non GW game here), this will kill the company.

did i miss any?i figure if i just list replies from previous years to this news we can just get back to more fun stuff like looking at Orky flyers



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The annual price increase is scheduled for June. Whether the above prices are accurate, on the other hand, is harder to say. But wouldn't really surprise me-- the trend is to raise prices by around 25% on selected kits and hobby supplies. 16.50 is 25% of $66, so $82.50 would follow their price increase model.

You know what's really funny about this? Forge World is -cheaper- than Games Workshop in some cases, and it's comparable elsewhere. Case and point, the Tartanus-pattern Terminators-- they're the same price as a regular box of Games Workshop terminators. $75 for a Land Raider makes the Forge World Land Raider kits seem increasingly reasonable...
 

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i know alot of guy's are going over to warmachine now as its alot cheaper to buy and play. The other thing that gets me is GW Australia are trying to stop people selling to us i think that should come under price gouging which is illegal
 

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i know alot of guy's are going over to warmachine now as its alot cheaper to buy and play. The other thing that gets me is GW Australia are trying to stop people selling to us i think that should come under price gouging which is illegal
Lol considering the number of people who have decided to take up warmachine every year because of price rises PP should be bigger than GW by now.



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Lol considering the number of people who have decided to take up warmachine every year because of price rises PP should be bigger than GW by now.
I agree the rate of players moving to PP might be exaggerated somewhat, but it is happening. My group of 15 players for example have spent A$18,000 on PP armies in this past year, and less than 1K on anything GW related at all. We panned our planned GW armies when the embargo hit, so that 18K was definitely heading their way, but went to PP instead. Plus we know at least 50/60 other aussies who could say the same.

It's not just the pricing/embargo issue either, although that was the proverbial 'straw' for many of us, but we're simply pissed off with GW's general treatment of us down under and we've had a gutful.

Why I say it's not just about pricing is because PP models are just as expensive, but you don't need as many of them to build a list so it ends up cheaper overall. My group also buy all our models from local online Stores so get 25% (or more) off retail, as we would buying GW product from the same store, although that's definitely only 25% off....and yet we don't.

GW's sales are dropping but the pricing hikes are covering that drop, and it's been that trend for a number of years now. Old news really and I wish it wasn't so, but I see it continuing if they don't start listening to their customers more closely and openly than they do currently.
 

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Well thats cool Hobo, but GW cant run a business based on worrying if you will spend with them or not, they have to draw a line in the sand ,it costs x amount to run GW down under so we need to sell x amount of product to break even/make a profit, sales are down? why is that? because our customers buy from wayland games, boom embargo.
and here we are a year later and i still dont think Wayland are doing ROW gw sales, wonder why that is?



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The annual price increase is scheduled for June. Whether the above prices are accurate, on the other hand, is harder to say. But wouldn't really surprise me-- the trend is to raise prices by around 25% on selected kits and hobby supplies. 16.50 is 25% of $66, so $82.50 would follow their price increase model.

You know what's really funny about this? Forge World is -cheaper- than Games Workshop in some cases, and it's comparable elsewhere. Case and point, the Tartanus-pattern Terminators-- they're the same price as a regular box of Games Workshop terminators. $75 for a Land Raider makes the Forge World Land Raider kits seem increasingly reasonable...
This^

More and More of my 40k is coming from FW rather than GW, i own copious amounts anyway but its starting to outweigh GW products by a margin.
$75 for a Land Raider from GW would get you either a Helios or Prometheus for just a few dollars more from FW and $97 will get you a MKIIB, which are far better looking than the standard pattern.

I remember when FW models were at a premium, they were for the serious Veterans or enthusiasts. We took great care in cleaning, dry fitting, building and painting them, painstaking hours went into their completion; If this keeps up, we are going to be seeing kids wondering around with them, in poor paintjobs and dropping them on the floor with no more regard than a Tonka Toy.

/rant Sorry, it just miffs me off.

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Am I surprised by the hike? Of course not.

Although to be honest GW raising it's prices means nothing to me because I don't really buy anything from them any more, other than paints.

When there was all this business last year with price rises, fine cast and the embargo, I was firm on the "burn GW" train, since then, I've spent a total of around £25 (excluding paints, as I said) on GW minis, when I brought some army of the dead from firestorm and the IoB griffon from ebay. Even with paints, I doubt I've even spent £80 in total with GW in the last 12 months, which is less than I've spent in a year in the 10 years I've been in the hobby.

In that time I've started a mantic undead army for K.o.W which must be coming up to 500 models now and I've been buying more and more 3rd party stuff to paint.

Don't get me wrong, I love GW models, always will, but for what they are, they are too expensive for me when there are cheaper alternatives out there.


Will this price rise kill of GW, of course not. But maybe 2-3% of players drop GW totally in favour of something else. And next year, when there's another price hike, perhaps another 4-5% jump ship. With the ever increasing number of quality 3rd party companies emerging, one day, GW will be threatened. But it's not today, not this price hike.
 

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Not surpising at all, they have raised prices for the last couple of years and every year theres one of these threads, then the polls about "who is done with GW".

Its sad that the price raises are turning good gamers away from the hobby. I just started to look around and get non official models from other companys and just play at home when i can.

I wonder how much a realm of battle board will go for now .... $310 dollars....thats crazy
 

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At some point I can understand it, but most of it I dont.

It makes it harder for new blood to get in, in any serious fashion. It alienates and upsets the dedicated player base. The cost of making most of the models didn't just jump again... if anything finecast was supposed to reduce prices, etc.

I'm almost convinced that upper management is trying to milk the hobby until it totally dries up, and bankrupt the company after getting their severance packages.

But meh. Just have to focus on my existing armies instead of continue adding to my newly formed IG. Oh well.
 
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