Hi there guys and gals, for many years I've liked the back ground of the Black Templars, being a massive fleet based chapter, much larger than mosty with its unusual structure, basically taking off where the Great Crusade ended by taking the fight to the enemy, purging the galaxy of the xenos, the mutant, the heretic and the witch. Great stuff and really inspirational, and with the talk of a new codex around the corner I'd like to start collecting and playing my very own crusade. Problem is however, I'm currently working on a massive "Army of the Unforgiven" made up of elements from the DA chapter and its successors, which will involve painting quite a few Angels of Redemption, Consecrators and Ravenwing, as well as a "Sons of Sanguinius" army made up of BA and Flesh Tearers, so lots of Death Company. In case you haven't figured out where this is going yet, by the time I get around to doing my Templars, I'm going to be well and truely sick and tired of painting black, lol. So what to do? Basically I've decied to collect an army from an already existing canon chapter (no good at coming withe my own ideas, as I have the imagination of a duck with its head stuck in a bucket of concrete), and apply the BT rule set and and army list to it. Anyway I've narrowed it down to two choices and was hoping you'd be able to help me make my final decision, hopefully giving me as many pros and cons for each to help me decide. The two final contenders, out of the many, are the Iron Knightsand the Red Templars. According to Lexicanum, both chapters are IF successor chapters, so that box is ticked for both armies, although the evidence in the case of the Iron Knights reguarding this is much stronger. At the moment I'm leaning towards the Iron Knights as they have quite a medieval, crusading look about them, plus the aricle says they have Emorers Champions and they'd probably be the easiest of the two to paint which is a huge bonus. Having said that though I really like the Red Templar colour scheme and would love to field an army of them on the table top, although I'm quite fond of the Iron Knights as well.