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well i have playing about with this list, played against space doggy's, blood pigeons and eldar it won all 3 games by turn 4 so its not bad....

Company Command Squad = 80
- master of ordnance


platoon 1 = 310
Platoon Command Squad = 35
- vox
Infantry Squad = 65
- vox
- auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
-auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
- auto cannon
heavy weapons squad 90
- missile launchers

platoon 2 = 310
Platoon Command Squad = 35
- vox
Infantry Squad = 65
- vox
- auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
-auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
- auto cannon
heavy weapons squad = 90
- missile launchers


Veteran Squad = 130
- x3 melta guns
- x7 shot guns
- demolitions

Veteran Squad = 130
- x3 melta guns
- x7 shot guns
- demolitions

Valkyrie = 100
- Hellstrike Missiles

Valkyrie = 100
- Hellstrike Missiles

Leman Russ Battle Tank = 170
- hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters

Leman Russ Battle Tank = 170
- hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters

it comes in at dead on 1500, its very basic every thing has its job and it gets it done, but i would like a bit of help expanding it to a 1750/2000 point mark
 

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I see you have used shotguns on the Vets, how do you find them compared to lasguns.
 

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I was thinking of adding rough riders and a leman russ for 1750 or dropping a auto cannon and adding two hellhounds

And the shotguns work grate as they are assault 2 so every one can shoot and assault (charging guards men)
 

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I would definately consider dropping one squad of guard to make both valks either dustbins or vendettas as the missiles are just plain bad.
 

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One thing I've found about the valkyrie is this - if the unit the valkyrie contains has an important purpose (i.e. claiming a far off objective, or serving as a behind enemy lines tank buster) it could be better to keep the valkyrie itself bare bones.

That way, from the perspective of your enemy, there are much juicier units they should be attacking, that have more of an immediate threat to them, and your valkyrie (and the unit inside) can complete it's mission unscathed.
 

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well i use valks over vens because, scout move, move drop vets shot 3 melta guns + demo charge, then drop two hellstrike missiles on what was inside or on an other unit whats better?

but i do get what you mean, 3 twin-linked las cannons would be nice but for what i want the valk offers a bigger bang for its buck.

but back on topic what about adding a 3rd platoon with assault weapons so it can move...

platoon 1 = 310
Platoon Command Squad = 35
- vox
Infantry Squad = 65
- vox
- auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
-auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
- auto cannon
heavy weapons squad 90
- missile launchers

platoon 2 = 310
Platoon Command Squad = 35
- vox
Infantry Squad = 65
- vox
- auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
-auto cannon
Infantry Squad = 60
- auto cannon
heavy weapons squad = 90
- missile launchers

platoon 3 = 225
Platoon Command Squad = 55
- vox
- x4 grenade launcher or flamer
Infantry Squad = 60
- grenade launcher or flamer
- vox
Infantry Squad = 55
- grenade launcher or flamer
Infantry Squad = 55
- grenade launcher or flamer


Veteran Squad = 130
- x3 melta guns
- x7 shot guns
- demolitions

Veteran Squad = 130
- x3 melta guns
- x7 shot guns
- demolitions

Valkyrie = 100
- Hellstrike Missiles

Valkyrie = 100
- Hellstrike Missiles

Leman Russ Battle Tank = 170
- hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters

Leman Russ Battle Tank = 170
- hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters
 

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Assuming the CCS is the same as the first list it's a very good list.
Seen as your Vets are built for early game use the Valkyries are a far better choice as transports. Vendettas are Gunships that should be back at range shooting priority targets, and then transporting units in for late game use...the t'l Lascannons are too valuable to be destroyed so early in a game.

Not a fan of the Hellstrikes though..Ordnance but no Blast, 1 shot. Still, doesn't really matter seen as it would be difficult to find the points for MRP's anyway.
 

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Going to 1750 points I would definately say take another leman russ and either another vet squad and valk or a vendetta.

Oh and its nice to see another veteran guard player using shotguns. I agree they are fun and hey if you shoot them you may as well charge... better you than them right :wink:. I find it annoying missing out on 1st rank Fire, 2nd Rank Fire order though...
 
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