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Okay I've decided to start a project log as I start up the hobby again. I've lost my various armies for various reasons, some had to be sold off, some got broken - bookshelf with it's contents falling upon your army shelf is never too good for ones collection - etc etc.

Well thanks to my birthday, Christmas and a refund from the tax man and £100 from my fake but real Grandad, I've decided to get it all back. I'll be starting from scratch with everything, all my armies and some new ones too. I've never been a one army at a time person either, I need multiple otherwise I get bored, so this could get rather disjointed to which the apologise. While apologies are on the table, don't expect great painting from me, I've never been to good at it though I am trying to improve, getting my enjoyment from the assembly and eventual gaming.

Here is a rundown of what armies I'll be doing.

30k Iron Hands, I preordered the LE Iron Hands cover codex for a reason, my favourite chapter ever, but since I wanted something different from last time I'll be going FW with this, love their models for my favourite chapter, still unsure if I'll be equipping them for 30k or 40k though simply because I only get to game at my local GW since I'm currently unaware of any gaming groups in Stoke and the GW has very few 30k players and games.

Sisters of Battle, had my Sisters since Witch Hunters. So I'll be starting them again, even now I love the Nuns with guns and feminism in the 41st millennium. However as my little sign to GW that Sisters players and fans still exist, I'll be buying everything from them despite how much it will cost me, I'll be going pure Sisters too so no Inquisition allies or anything like that. I just like the idea of some guy at a GW depot looking at an order form every month and seeing a consistent stream of Sisters.

Dread Mob, this will be new. I've always liked Orks but never the whole Mob thing, but loved their Walkers and views to Tech - that and I think the GW Ork flyer is the nicest Flyer they have done, someone name me a nicer GW flyer? - and when I found out there was a book with fluff and a list aimed at Ork Walkers and all that goodness I had to have it. My plan was to always wait until Raid on Kastor Noverm got redone I'd do it then, but browsing the FW site while pricing up their Iron Hands, I came across the Dread Mob list updated for 6th so this got added to my 'In Progress' list. Never played with Orks before so this I'm looking forward to.

Ad Mech, my avatar should tell you what I'm in love with. I'm dabbling in FW for my Iron Hands and parts of my Dread Mob, eventually a Repressor for my Sisters, why not cave and enjoy another of my loves too.

All of this will probably take me years but it keeps me occupied. Anyway that's it, I know it's a long first post for a Plog but I just want to give you an idea of what to expect and a little bit of why I'm doing each army, even if it's a little bit of background. I'll try to get some photos up soon as.
 

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Well that's my Exorcist assembled. I'll be glueing the turret rack to the Rhino base. But I'll be keeping the two metal pieces seperate, it's just easier to transport, also means that temporarily while I'm starting out I can use it as an Immolator if I remove the the Exorcist pieces and replace them with the Immolator Turret.
 

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Well my Sisters got a nice little bump.

First up Six Repentia.



Next up the great Jacobus



The core of any Order. Got 6 based and 3 more still to do.





And the Rhino portion of my Exorcist got a lick of paint

 

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Well I've been somewhat busy recently since my hours have been slashed at work so I'm now hobbying alot more. Yay.

First up some Repentia, just the two out of the nine. Not entirely finished but mostly, it also gives an idea of where I'm going. I'm very minimalist in my painting so be warned. Oh and yes my Sisters will be black ;')



Now we have up my Jacobus, aside from the silver on the gun, painted entirly with Washes. Still need to do his feet and satchel but I'm happy with him so far.







Should be posting my Exorcist soon, it won't be finished since I'm still trying to decide how I want to do the ornaments on on the front and sides and I'm continually making tweaks to its Organ for better or for worse. Then it's on to some basic Sisters soon after.
 

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And this is my Venom, I had a big block of text giving background as to why I went with this scheme but it looks to have removed itself. *sigh* Guess I'll try to retype it all tomorrow when I finish work.



 

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Well these are my first 3 Battle Sisters. All in all I think I'm done with them, I want to paint the gun or leave it as is, really not sure. I'm also going to pick up a basing kit in a week or two to hide the mess I've made on the bases. I also need to maybe add another layer of the Brown wash to the faces, seems a tad pale.


And my in progress Exorcist







My first time using Oxhide paint too. Not sure if I like the result though.
 

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Sounds like a torrent of stuff will flood this log. Great start and good luck! I was surprised you only used washes for Jacobus. He turned out realy nice!
Yeah, just Washes, same for the Repentia too, the only exception is the Metal. I've never been good at painting, not of any real skill at least, and my enjoyment from the hobby has always come from the assembling and the gaming, with painting just being more of an unfortunate necessity. - All stems from a bad experience from when I got into the hobby back in fourth while at my local GW for my first game -. So I always look at guides for simple painting and schemes, few years ago comes across a guide for just using Washes. Even now I still use it because I like it. Just paint the model White, then give a Black Wash to the while model. Then once it's dry ink in the Washes wear appropriate.

I'll try and get some photos of other models I've done using just Washes over the years.
 

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Well this morning I've finally settled on a Raider scheme for my Dark Eldar armour, I'm keeping the flesh theme for the 4 Venoms I'll be using with the 2 Scalpel Squadrons. But I tried to transfer it to Raiders and my Cronos and it just doesn't work. I think it's in part because the Venoms armour panels are split across the entire model where the Raider it isn't.



I need to give it an Arax Earthshade wash to help dull the Orange abit, it's not as bright as the photo makes it look but the Earthshade was should improve it.

But the theme for all my vehicles will be rust, chipping, Battle damaged etc. I've also being looking at guides, tutorials etc for rust, chipping etc, the idea being that none will look the same, this also means I can use different ways of doing rust yet keep the vehicles looking somewhat similar. I may go back and repaint my Venoms in this theme though since I'm not entirely happy with my 'flesh scheme'.

Thoughts?
 

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I need to give it an Arax Earthshade wash to help dull the Orange abit, it's not as bright as the photo makes it look but the Earthshade was should improve it.

But the theme for all my vehicles will be rust, chipping, Battle damaged etc. I've also being looking at guides, tutorials etc for rust, chipping etc, the idea being that none will look the same, this also means I can use different ways of doing rust yet keep the vehicles looking somewhat similar. I may go back and repaint my Venoms in this theme though since I'm not entirely happy with my 'flesh scheme'.

Thoughts?
I like the idea but I'm not crazy about the execution for a few reasons. There don't seem to be any other colors used (at least from this angle) to create contrast or visual interest. I'm also curious if iron oxide rust is appropriate for a Dark Eldar craft. It surely wouldn't be for Craftworld Eldar . . . unless they left their avatar out in the yard for a while. Might there be a more reasonable or more interesting method of wearing down a Dark Eldar craft? Perhaps there would be some sort of Commorragh hull parasite or other corrosive exposure, or who knows what these craft are made of, is it steel?

Why are all the outermost edges equally weathered? Why are only some of the inner edges of the plates weathered?

I'm asking all of this because these aren't realistic patterns of weathering. Rust forms on exposed edges where the protection/paint has been removed but where there is insufficiently frequent friction to wear the oxidation away. I did a bunch of image searches and didn't find any satisfying examples. Apparently people don't post photos of rust and wear on vehicles and machines in use, which suggests a level of disregard or neglect.

So are these neglected Dark Eldar craft?

Will you be adding oxidation to the prow or the tail?
 

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I need to give it an Arax Earthshade wash to help dull the Orange abit, it's not as bright as the photo makes it look but the Earthshade was should improve it.

But the theme for all my vehicles will be rust, chipping, Battle damaged etc. I've also being looking at guides, tutorials etc for rust, chipping etc, the idea being that none will look the same, this also means I can use different ways of doing rust yet keep the vehicles looking somewhat similar. I may go back and repaint my Venoms in this theme though since I'm not entirely happy with my 'flesh scheme'.

Thoughts?
I like the idea but I'm not crazy about the execution for a few reasons. There don't seem to be any other colors used (at least from this angle) to create contrast or visual interest. I'm also curious if iron oxide rust is appropriate for a Dark Eldar craft. It surely wouldn't be for Craftworld Eldar . . . unless they left their avatar out in the yard for a while. Might there be a more reasonable or more interesting method of wearing down a Dark Eldar craft? Perhaps there would be some sort of Commorragh hull parasite or other corrosive exposure, or who knows what these craft are made of, is it steel?

Why are all the outermost edges equally weathered? Why are only some of the inner edges of the plates weathered?

I'm asking all of this because these aren't realistic patterns of weathering. Rust forms on exposed edges where the protection/paint has been removed but where there is insufficiently frequent friction to wear the oxidation away. I did a bunch of image searches and didn't find any satisfying examples. Apparently people don't post photos of rust and wear on vehicles and machines in use, which suggests a level of disregard or neglect.

So are these neglected Dark Eldar craft?

Will you be adding oxidation to the prow or the tail?
Okay, I'll try to reply to each of your points as best I can.

Well, this is what I did. Leadbelcher, followed up with a wash of Nuln Oil. Then use Typhus Corrosion around the edges. Then a dry brush of Mornfang Brown over where I had used Typhus, followed up with a drybrush of Ryza Rust. Ending with a wash of Agrax Earthshade.

The reason it's only the edges is because it's the first time trying it, I've got a second Raider ready to go where I'm planning to do it more on the plates instead of sticking to the edge of the model.

Yes my vehicles are meant to be neglected, my Kabal is poor and lacks influence or power. As a result they take what they can regardless of its state so long as it's workable. And yes I doubt Dark Eldar tech rusts, at least not in the same way our stuff rusts, but like I prefaced this thread, I'm not that great a painter, I try my best and always try to learn new things but I was being ambitious even with this. A parasite would be more fitting, but I don't have the green stuff skills to even attempt that, let alone pull it off. Whenever I've tried to green stuff I end up ruining my models so now I just flat out avoid it unless it's the most simple of things.

I'm unsure what to do with the prow and tail. I've thought about about doing it same as the actual Raider, but then I'm worried the Raider will seem somewhat bland because it would all be the same, but on the other side I don't know what else to do with it. The tail I might just leave and paint it same as my sail though. But the prow I am at a loss.

Thanks for the detailed critique :)
 

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Well this is a group shot of my rebuilt Sisters force up to now, with the exception of my last purchase which included some Immolators and Seraphim.



Well have a 10 Girl Sister squad, naked along side Jacobus, and 5 Girl Melta Dominion squad, my Exorcist, 1 Penitent Engine, 9 Repentia with a Mistress, a 6 girl Sisters squad with 2 Flamers in there and last but not least Celestine. All in various stages of painting, some finished, some not even started. Yay.



And here is the start of my first Immolator.
 

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I'm unsure what to do with the prow and tail. I've thought about about doing it same as the actual Raider, but then I'm worried the Raider will seem somewhat bland because it would all be the same, but on the other side I don't know what else to do with it. The tail I might just leave and paint it same as my sail though. But the prow I am at a loss.
What about putting a design on it like a spear or a mouth or a poisoned blade, then weathering and chipping it up?

Great to see some sisters! I dug mine out over christmas too, but I'm far to embarrassed by my early days paint job to put photos up until I've revitalised that army.
 

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Great to see some sisters! I dug mine out over christmas too, but I'm far to embarrassed by my early days paint job to put photos up until I've revitalised that army.
Oh I love my Sisters, had an army since I started the hobby in 4th using Witch Hunters but had to sell them awhile back because of the usual reasons, lack of job, needed money etc. But I regretted it, I lost all my armies in one way or another, some I couldn't care about but a few I regretted and missed. My Sisters we in that list, I love the models, love the fluff, plus it's feminism in 40k, sort of :) So when I started rebuilding all my armies a few months ago, Sisters were the first of my many purchases.

Don't be embarrassed to put up photos, my painting is horrible and probably deserves a place in Pro Painted Seriously? mock thread if I were to ever get rid of my armies again. But I love my army, Sisters especially, so I don't care how bad a painter I am.

Haven't posted in a week or so just been busy, combination of work and finally playing Dragon Age Inquisition I've had it since my birthday in December but only dabbled in it. Haven't sat down and played since I brought it, but after I finished work on Saturday I've just been sitting in bed playing it, wracked up 42 hours playtime since Saturday.

But yesterday this arrived for my Sisters.



This is quickly becoming a Sisters Plog instead of a variety like I planned. Which is a shame, I've got some of my Dark Eldar stuff ready to paint, even a large squad of Grotesques needing some colour, got my Iron Hands 30k FW Iron Father sitting in its packaging - I'll try to get a photo of my backlog up - but I have just been happily swimming in Sisters to do others right now. Which I'm happy since its getting my Sisters to a good point before I launch into other things.

Speaking of my Sisters, the store manager of my local GW is leaving and whenever I've been having days off work he had been having practice games with me to help relearn the game since I haven't played since late 5th Ed/ early 6th. Just 1k games since they're easy enough to organise, my Dark Eldar are 3 for 3 in all of my practice games. Anyway my Sisters are now at just over 1k points - could probably reach 1250 actually - and he never played against Sisters - seen them played though - so this Friday we're having a 1k game against either 'Crons with a Sanctuary 101 theme or his 'Nids with Leviathan theme. Can't wait. Personally I'm hoping he brings 'Nids because I've never played' Crons since they had their book in 5th. Nids I'll feel better about since I've had an army of previously and have played against them as opposed to 'Crons. I'll post up my list here when I finish work and I'll also try to get photos of the game so I can post some kind of Battle Report.
 

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Crons with a Sanctuary 101 theme or his 'Nids with Leviathan theme.
Either of these would be a truly awesome matchup!
 
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