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@Moriouce I've never fought elder and Power Klaws are just a given where I play as lots of monstrous creatures, big named characters and big armour. So if none of the elder have anything that needs to be munched with the high strength high AP then yeah i'm all for big choppas and extra boyz and big shootas.

Correct! PK is often given but in this list, or rather against his opponents list it is not.
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