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5000 points of DE

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Here we go, my project to have finished by Xmas.

Characters: 1250

-Malekith = 600 (in Black guard)
-Master w/BSB Hydra banner, Heavy armour and Sea dragon Cloak = 188 (in Black guard)
-Master w/Ring of Darkness, Heavy armour, Sea dragon cloak and Great weapon = 132 (In black guard)
-Supreme Sorceress w/Darkstar Cloak, Pendant of Khaeleth, extra level, Dark Pegasus = 330

Core:1600

40 Dark Elf Warriors w/Full command and Shields = 295
40 Dark Elf Warriors w/Full command and Shields = 295
10 Repeater Crossbowmen = 100
10 Repeater Crossbowmen = 100
10 Repeater Crossbowmen = 100
5 Harpies = 55
5 Harpies = 55
20 Black Ark Corsairs w/Full command and Handbows = 225
20 Black Ark Corsairs w/Full command and Handbows = 225
Assassain w/Manebane, Cry of war and Rune of Khaine = 150 (in Black guard)

Special: 1253

8 Cold one Knights w/Full command, Null Talisman and Standard of the Slaughter = 306
8 Cold one Knights w/Full command = 226
20 Black Guard including Full command, Banner of Hag graef and Kouran - 391
3 Cold one Chariots = 300

Rare: 900

Hydra = 175
Hydra = 175
Hydra = 175
Hydra = 175
2 Repeater Bolt throwers = 200

TOTAL = 5003

Thoughts? is it even a legal army? general help?

Do I have enough magic protection and casting power? I've got 2 lvl 4s, one of whom has +1 power dice/Dispel Dice and the other +1 power dice. And both have the 'Power of Darkness' spell, potentially adding another 8 power dice.

Should I drop

thanks in advance
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So I need to re-arrange my magic banners? I'll give it some thought and post what I come up with.
I was thinking about dropping the BSB master and taking a hag. Giving me access to a cauldron to further buff the BG (giving them the ward save would be useful against chargers no?)

The idea of the flying Sorceress was to neutralise war machines and the like, but do you think your suggestion would be better for the army? I'd change her equipment to suit this.

And I could drop the bolt throwers, I only took them as I figured there would be some kind of flying monster at this level of points, but would another Hydra better, for a total of 5?
Ok, had another go:

Characters: 1215
-Malekith = 600 (In BG)
-Supreme Sorceress w/Darkstar Cloak, Sacrificial Dagger, Pendant of Khaeleth, Null talisman and Extra level = 360 (In a warriors unit)
-Death Hag w/BSB, Cauldron of Blood and Dance of Doom = 255

Core: 1500
-40 Dark Elf Warriors w/Full command and Shields = 295
-40 Dark Elf Warriors w/Full command and Shields = 295
-10 Repeater Crossbowmen = 100
-10 Repeater Crossbowmen = 100
-10 Repeater Crossbowmen = 100
-5 Harpies = 55
-5 Harpies = 55
-Assassain w/Manbane, Cry of War and Rune of Khaine = 150 (In BG)
-10 Black Ark Corsairs w/Repeater Handbows = 100
-20 Black Ark Corsairs w/Full command and Warbanner = 250

Special: 1401
-10 Cold one Knights w/Full command, Null talisman and Banner of Hag Graef = 360
-10 Cold one Knights w/Full command, Null talisman and the standard of Slaughter = 360
-3 Cold one Chariots = 300
-20 Black Guard w/Full command, Kouran and Banner of Murder = 381

Rare: 875
-Hydra = 175
-Hydra = 175
-Hydra = 175
-Hydra = 175
-Hydra = 175

Total: 4991

How does it look now?

BG form up against the hardest looking unit in the opponents army, Hopefully with Malekith to hassle enemy shooters and armour piercing up close, with their re-rolls to hit and Blessing from the Cauldron (either to help offense or defense), Assassain to jump out for challenges they will be able to hold their own.
Big unit of Corsairs on one flank.
2 Hydras on either side of the BG.
Cold one Chariots on one flank.
Each Cold one knight unit is supported by a Hydra.
Last Hydra to fill in any gap.

Thoughts now?

PS, I already own and have painted around half of the models, and as I batch paint (to no particular level other than table worthy) Plastic models are easy to get done.
I am however using this army as an excuse to improve my metallic metal painting schemes and practice with an air brush.
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Meh, Kouran is no loss to be honest. A tower master with the Crimson death would be cheaper anyway.

A unit of BG led my Malekith won't be running away anytime soon.

Although, I'm re-working this list as I have now decided Mally isn't worth 600 points.
Characters: 1240
Dreadlord w/Whip of Agony, Ring of Darkness, Pendant of Kaeleth, Heavy armour, Shield and Sea dragon Cloak = 255 (leads BG w/ BoM)
Supreme Sorceress w/Sacrificial Dagger, Seal of Ghrond, 2 Power stones, Extra level and Lore of Metal = 355 (Leads a spearman unit)
Supreme Sorceress w/Darkstar Cloak, 2 Null Talismans, 2 Power stones, Dark pegasus, Extra level and Lore of Dark magic = 405
Death Hag w/BSB and Cauldron of Blood = 225

Core: 1400
40 Dark Elf Warriors w/Full command and Shields = 295
40 Dark Elf Warriors w/Full command and Shields = 295
20 Crossbowmen = 200
20 Crossbowmen = 200
24 Corsairs w/Full command and Sea Serpent Banner = 290
5 Harpies = 55
5 Harpies = 55
Assassain w/Manbane, Cry of War, additional Hand weapon and Rending Stars = 161 (hidden the Shades)

Special: 1450
10 Cold one Knights w/Full command, Ring of Hotek and Standard of Hag Graef = 370
10 Shades w/Great weapons and Light armour = 190
20 Black Guard w/Full command, Crimson Death and banner of Murder = 345
20 Black Guard w/Full command, Gem of Nightmares and Standard of the Slaughter = 345
2 Cold one Chariots = 200

Rare: 900
Hydra = 175
Hydra = 175
Hydra = 175
Hydra = 175
2 Repeater Bolt throwers = 200

Total: 4990

What about now?

Dreadlord is designed for challenges, Str5 with the armour modifiers with the Ring and Pendant for protection.
Sorceress 1 is a lore of metal power house.
Sorceress 2 I'm unsure on, she's designed to disrupt, but if she can get off a black horror, with power stones and the DS cloak, alongside Power of darkness, she can hopefully cripple a big unit.

Banner of Murder BG go with with Dreadlord flanked by a hydra, designed for fighting heavy infantry.
Standard of the Slaughter BG alongside gem of nightmares are designed for defeating hordes, hopefully causing a devestating charge. Then, although it's not much, causing fear for a turn.
Frenzied Corsairs go on one flank. 2 Chariots on the other.
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Hmm, taking into account my characters...what do you think I should do about protection.

As I only have 1 pendant, and the black amulet is expensive.

So what should I do?

re-write my entire magic items if you need too.
How're we feeling about 2 units of BG? I did look at executioners, but for the tiny amount of points it is between a BG and one of them I figured more BG would be better.

What do we think about the Pegasus sorceress? Is she worth it?

I'm happy with the Core and Rare.

I have a vague Idea on what to do with the Characters equipment, but would like to see you both in agreement on what they should carry :)

Thanks alot btw, means much.
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