List 1
+++ 1850 (1850pts) +++
+ HQ +
Company Command Squad [Camo Gear for Veterans, Carapace Armour]
····Company Commander [Bolter, Camo Gear, Carapace Armour, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, HoC: Kurov’s Aquila, Krak Grenades, Melta Bombs, Orders, Refractor Field]
····4x Veteran w/ Plasma Gun [4x Frag Grenades, 4x Plasma Gun]
Tank Commander
····Command Vanquisher [Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Vanquisher Battle Cannon, Warlord]
········Knight Commander Pask [Tank Orders]
····Executioner [2x Plasma Cannons, Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon]
+ Troops +
Infantry Platoon
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Platoon Command Squad
········3x Guardsman w/ Flamer [3x Flak Armour, 3x Flamer, 3x Frag Grenades]
········Guardsman w/ Heavy Flamer [Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Heavy Flamer]
········Platoon Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Orders]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
+ Heavy Support +
Basilisk Battery
····Basilisk [Camo Netting, Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
Leman Russ Squadron
····Demolisher [Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Relic Plating, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon]
+ Fortification +
Aegis Defense Line [Gun Emplacement with Quad-gun]
List 2:
+++ 1850 (1850pts) +++
+ HQ +
Company Command Squad [Camo Gear for Veterans, Carapace Armour]
····Company Commander [Bolter, Camo Gear, Carapace Armour, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, HoC: Kurov’s Aquila, Krak Grenades, Melta Bombs, Orders, Refractor Field]
····Officer of the Fleet [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Navy Orders]
····4x Veteran w/ Plasma Gun [4x Frag Grenades, 4x Plasma Gun]
+ Troops +
Infantry Platoon
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Platoon Command Squad
········3x Guardsman w/ Flamer [3x Flak Armour, 3x Flamer, 3x Frag Grenades]
········Guardsman w/ Heavy Flamer [Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Heavy Flamer]
········Platoon Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Orders]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
+ Fast Attack +
Vendetta Squadron
····Vendetta [2x Twin-linked Lascannons, Extra Armour, Searchlight, Twin-linked Lascannon]
Vendetta Squadron
····Vendetta [2x Twin-linked Lascannons, Extra Armour, Searchlight, Twin-linked Lascannon]
+ Heavy Support +
Leman Russ Squadron
····Demolisher [Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Relic Plating, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon]
Leman Russ Squadron
····Executioner [2x Plasma Cannons, Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon]
+ Fortification +
Aegis Defense Line [Gun Emplacement with Quad-gun]
I have a game coming up against the Smurfs and I am torn between the two lists above.
List one gives me a BS4 Vanquisher which may pop a Knight if he brings it and a basilisk to rain hell down on any marine silly enough to try and capture any objectives that I will be placing out in the open. Also keeps him humble, my opponent hates my basilisks (note the dice gods love my artillery and I frequently roll out 3-4 basilisks in my games)
List two gives me two Vendetta's and an Officer of the Fleet to try and get them on the board more reliably. These offer decent fire power and manoeuvrability, my question is can they reliably handle a Knight. Also my opponent does have the new marine AA Tank so may make short work of these guys.
In both lists the big Platoon and CCS will be hiding behind the D-line. In list one I haven't decided if the Basilisk or if Pask and the Executioner will join them. I like to split these up as my oponent will often go out of his way to take out a basilisk in cover hiding on the other end the my DZ. Giving Pask and co more time to do their thing.
In both lists Melta vets and the Demolisher push towards objectives looking to pop any transports or vehicles caught out of place or camping near important objectives.
Camo on all my vehicles and fire barrels on my Chimeras as my infantry are all Catachan models and I like to add a bit of fluff to my lists and I think the Catachans would love the idea of popping plenty of Camo on their armour as well as some Jerry rigged booby traps.
Kurov's Aquilla will give PE to the Plasma CCS in both lists and since their is no Pask in list 2 the Executioner will sit within the bubble to get PE so it can re-roll any gets hot and wounds of 1. Really love this combination.
My question to you is what do you think I should take to go up against marines backed by a Imperial Knight!
+++ 1850 (1850pts) +++
+ HQ +
Company Command Squad [Camo Gear for Veterans, Carapace Armour]
····Company Commander [Bolter, Camo Gear, Carapace Armour, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, HoC: Kurov’s Aquila, Krak Grenades, Melta Bombs, Orders, Refractor Field]
····4x Veteran w/ Plasma Gun [4x Frag Grenades, 4x Plasma Gun]
Tank Commander
····Command Vanquisher [Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Vanquisher Battle Cannon, Warlord]
········Knight Commander Pask [Tank Orders]
····Executioner [2x Plasma Cannons, Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon]
+ Troops +
Infantry Platoon
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Platoon Command Squad
········3x Guardsman w/ Flamer [3x Flak Armour, 3x Flamer, 3x Frag Grenades]
········Guardsman w/ Heavy Flamer [Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Heavy Flamer]
········Platoon Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Orders]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
+ Heavy Support +
Basilisk Battery
····Basilisk [Camo Netting, Earthshaker Cannon, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
Leman Russ Squadron
····Demolisher [Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Relic Plating, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon]
+ Fortification +
Aegis Defense Line [Gun Emplacement with Quad-gun]
List 2:
+++ 1850 (1850pts) +++
+ HQ +
Company Command Squad [Camo Gear for Veterans, Carapace Armour]
····Company Commander [Bolter, Camo Gear, Carapace Armour, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades, HoC: Kurov’s Aquila, Krak Grenades, Melta Bombs, Orders, Refractor Field]
····Officer of the Fleet [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Navy Orders]
····4x Veteran w/ Plasma Gun [4x Frag Grenades, 4x Plasma Gun]
+ Troops +
Infantry Platoon
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Infantry Squad
········6x Guardsman [6x Flak Armour, 6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
········Guardsman w/ Flamer [Flak Armour, Flamer, Frag Grenades]
········Missile Launcher Team [2x Flak Armour T, 2x Frag Grenades T, Lasgun, Missile Launcher]
········Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol]
····Platoon Command Squad
········3x Guardsman w/ Flamer [3x Flak Armour, 3x Flamer, 3x Frag Grenades]
········Guardsman w/ Heavy Flamer [Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Heavy Flamer]
········Platoon Commander [Close Combat Weapon, Flak Armour, Frag Grenades, Laspistol, Orders]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Bolter, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
Veterans
····Chimera [Camo Netting, Fire Barrels, Heavy Flamer, 2x Lasgun Arrays, Multi-laser, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers]
····Grenadiers [Carapace Armour for Squad]
····Veteran Sergeant [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Frag Grenades]
····6x Veteran w/ Lasgun [6x Frag Grenades, 6x Lasgun]
····3x Veteran w/ Meltagun [3x Frag Grenades, 3x Meltagun]
+ Fast Attack +
Vendetta Squadron
····Vendetta [2x Twin-linked Lascannons, Extra Armour, Searchlight, Twin-linked Lascannon]
Vendetta Squadron
····Vendetta [2x Twin-linked Lascannons, Extra Armour, Searchlight, Twin-linked Lascannon]
+ Heavy Support +
Leman Russ Squadron
····Demolisher [Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Relic Plating, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Demolisher Siege Cannon]
Leman Russ Squadron
····Executioner [2x Plasma Cannons, Camo Netting, Heavy Bolter, Searchlight, Smoke Launchers, Turret-mounted Executioner Plasma Cannon]
+ Fortification +
Aegis Defense Line [Gun Emplacement with Quad-gun]
I have a game coming up against the Smurfs and I am torn between the two lists above.
List one gives me a BS4 Vanquisher which may pop a Knight if he brings it and a basilisk to rain hell down on any marine silly enough to try and capture any objectives that I will be placing out in the open. Also keeps him humble, my opponent hates my basilisks (note the dice gods love my artillery and I frequently roll out 3-4 basilisks in my games)
List two gives me two Vendetta's and an Officer of the Fleet to try and get them on the board more reliably. These offer decent fire power and manoeuvrability, my question is can they reliably handle a Knight. Also my opponent does have the new marine AA Tank so may make short work of these guys.
In both lists the big Platoon and CCS will be hiding behind the D-line. In list one I haven't decided if the Basilisk or if Pask and the Executioner will join them. I like to split these up as my oponent will often go out of his way to take out a basilisk in cover hiding on the other end the my DZ. Giving Pask and co more time to do their thing.
In both lists Melta vets and the Demolisher push towards objectives looking to pop any transports or vehicles caught out of place or camping near important objectives.
Camo on all my vehicles and fire barrels on my Chimeras as my infantry are all Catachan models and I like to add a bit of fluff to my lists and I think the Catachans would love the idea of popping plenty of Camo on their armour as well as some Jerry rigged booby traps.
Kurov's Aquilla will give PE to the Plasma CCS in both lists and since their is no Pask in list 2 the Executioner will sit within the bubble to get PE so it can re-roll any gets hot and wounds of 1. Really love this combination.
My question to you is what do you think I should take to go up against marines backed by a Imperial Knight!
