[cain the betrayer]

lord

sorcerer lord
mark of tzeentch
lore of tzeentch
blood of tzeentch
talisman of presevation
charmed shield
disc of tzeentch


TOTAl 355heroes

exalted hero
shield
bsb
warbanner
TOTAl 165core

18 chaos wariors
mark of tzeentch
shields
gleaming pendant
full comand
TOTAL 343


18 chaos wariors
mark of khorne
halberds
shields
full comand
TOTAL 366elite

6 chaos knights
full comand
mark of tzeentch
blasted standard
TOTAL 360rare

hellcannon 205


hellcannon 205


ARMY TOTAL 1999

my plan is rushing to the enemy with the warriors and flanking them with the knights
while shooting at them with the hellcannons and the lord
comends please?

 

[Putch.]

What is the gleaming pendant..? Because if its not a standard then the Warriors cant carry it, and as I recall there is no item in the WoC armybook called that.

 

[cain the betrayer]

its a magic standart in the new rule book it gives an re roll to the first failed leadership test

 

[Putch.]

hmm interesting, is it worth the points for one re-roll though? I dont have the new rulebook as of yet, but for just one re-roll is it really worth it?

 

[Crimzzen]

lord

sorcerer lord
mark of tzeentch
lore of tzeentch
blood of tzeentch
talisman of presevation
charmed shield
disc of tzeentch


TOTAl 355heroes

exalted hero
shield
bsb
warbanner
TOTAl 165core

18 chaos wariors
mark of tzeentch
shields
gleaming pendant
full comand
TOTAL 343


18 chaos wariors
mark of khorne
halberds
shields
full comand
TOTAL 366elite

6 chaos knights
full comand
mark of tzeentch
blasted standard
TOTAL 360rare

hellcannon 205


hellcannon 205


ARMY TOTAL 1999

my plan is rushing to the enemy with the warriors and flanking them with the knights
while shooting at them with the hellcannons and the lord
comends please?

I think the lord could use that item which grants the 4+ ward save (3+ because of Tzeentch) if he's going to by flying around alone.

Probably don't need the gleaming pendant as the BSB lets you do the same thing and you can't ever reroll a reroll.

I think you need more warriors. 18 will get wittled down too quickly before they get there. Try for 3 ranks if possible.

Ultimately, you'd be looking at dropping a hellcannon or the knights. I'd personally drop the knights as they are no longer as effective on the charge. If you know the enemy is coming to you, you can just castle around your hellcannons and blast them all day long.

 

[cain the betrayer]

the lord already has that item

as for the gleaming pendant i could do that but i would have to spend the points somewhere els and i couldnt think up a good other option

and i wanted to do the warriors in three ranks of six
and im not going to try and castle because i will be outshot almost everytime i have to go against a shooty army
the knights can still do enough they will become more of an support unit then a solo one
and they can get the smaller stronger units like giants dragon ogres and other cavalery

 

[Cheese meister]

conjoined homoculous on your lord asap +d3 to casting so your between +7 and +9 to cast a spell

 

[Gigantor]

if you can find the points for it, mark of nurgle and banner of rage on your warriors with halberds. you get the best of both worlds.

 

[cain the betrayer]

i dont want them to have frenzy because i dont want them to charge all the time simply because they cant beat ranked units anymore in the front

 

[KhainiteAssassin]

Cain you do know the new rules you dont HAVE to charge if you pass a LD right? and they still rip shit up just as good

 

[cain the betrayer]

i know but my abilaty to fail the simpelest leadership test still makes we wearry
and i want to keep it too khorne and tzeentch for the fluff

 

[Cheese meister]

not to be an arse hole but what fluff could possibly justify tzeentch and khorne fighting together

 

[cain the betrayer]

for example that the sorcerer fought with such great ferocety in batle that they bagan to serve him or maybe they are mercs or what i was planing to do is a buy a lord on juggernaut and say its the twin of the sorcerer there are enough options

 

[Dave T Hobbit]

...what fluff could possibly justify tzeentch and khorne fighting together

The fluff in the Warriors of Chaos Army book?

Marks for WoC indicate an inclination in worship. which does not have to be a hard-line obsessive life-long worship.

 

[Putch.]

What the hobbit said. Have you seen the book? If your wanting to be a lore buff then what justification is there for any succesful demon army? (going with the fact that mono god lists are hard to pull off)

 

[cain the betrayer]

here is my updated list
lord

sorcerer lord
mark of tzeentch
lore of tzeentch
blood of tzeentch
talisman of presevation
disc of tzeentch
conjoined homunculus
TOTAL 370

heroes

exalted hero
shield
bsb
tzeentch
TOTAL 150

core

17 chaos wariors
mark of tzeentch
shields
full comand
TOTAL 323

18 chaos wariors
mark of khorne
halberds
full comand
TOTAL 348

6 warhounds 36

6 warhounds 36

elite

6 chaos knights
standard bearer
mark of tzeentch
blasted standard
TOTAL 330

rare

hellcannon 205

hellcannon 205

ARMY TOTAL 2003

but the problem is i now have three points too much so back to the disign table:angry:

 

[Gigantor]

i dont want them to have frenzy because i dont want them to charge all the time simply because they cant beat ranked units anymore in the front

You know that the mark of khorne gives them frenzy right?

 

[cain the betrayer]

yes but the khorne warriors are not the support unit while the knights are the knights will serve as hammer for those tzeentch warriors