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Hey all

I am involved with an escalation league at my local GW store. The League is designed to encourage building a fully painted army, so I will score allot of points for having a full painted army, as such I have started working on a list for the month of April (when we escalate to 2250) so I have this month to get the models ready.

Anyway this is the planned list:

= HQ =
Daemon Prince. (Tridon the Sinister) – 340
[DoT, Wings, Armor, Black Mace, GoM, Rank 2 Pysker, Spell Familiar]

Chaos Lord. (Gnaeus the Infested) – 150
[LC, BBoS, MoN, SoC, Melta Bombs]

= Troops =

Cultists - 55
[10man, Heavy Stubber]

Chaos Space Marine Squad. (10 man) - 235
[10man, CCWs, Melta Gun x2 , Combi-Flamer (on AC), Rhino+Havoc. ]

Chaos Space Marine Squad. (10 man) - 235
[10man, CCWs, Plasma Gun x2, Rhino+Havoc. ]

Plague Marine Squad. (6 Man) – 169
[2 man, Plasma Guns, Meltagun]

Chaos Space Marine Squad. (5 man) - 90
[CCWs (Replace Bolters), Meltabombs (on AC)]


= Elites =
Hellbrute. - 125
[Lascannonscannon, Power Fist]

Hellbrute. - 125
[Lascannonscannon, Power Fist]

= Fast =

3 Chaos Bike - 100
[Meltaguns x2, Combi-melta (on AC)]

= Heavy Support =

Predator – 95
Autocannon Turret, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Predator – 100
Lascannon Turret

Landraider- 235
Dirge Casters

= Fortifications. =

‘Imperial’ Bastion – 195
Searchlights + Quad-Gun (On Bastion)
Baricaces x 3 + Icarus-Lascannon (“Battlefield debris”)

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The Plan, is to put the Plague marines (With the Lord) on the Barricades Fortification along with the cultists in the Bastion building a nice little castle. Near the end of the game they make a jump on 'near zone' objectives. (The Hellbrutes and Dakka Pred holds the line with them)
The two CSM squads along with the Laz-Predator advance on a flank and try to get line-breaker and objectives on the far table. The DP and the Bikes acts as roving problem solvers.
The Khornate Marines sit in the Landraider and can A) advance with the armored fist or B) hold the line near the Bastion and be able to drop a small unit into CC to help deal with the opponent’s attempts to grab my near table objectives. (Which has been a problem of late)

Any ideas..

Oh and No I don't own a Hell-drake yet
 

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The only change I'd make is to swap the Helbrutes and lascannons for 2 x 5 man squads of noise marines with blastmasters.

You lose 1 in strength and ap, but you gain blast and ignores cover. Then sticking them in fortifications would be good :)

You've costed your helbrutes differently to each other but they appear to have the same loadout?
 

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The only change I'd make is to swap the Helbrutes and lascannons for 2 x 5 man squads of noise marines with blastmasters.

You lose 1 in strength and ap, but you gain blast and ignores cover. Then sticking them in fortifications would be good :)

You've costed your helbrutes differently to each other but they appear to have the same loadout?
I much rather have the Helbrutes. The Lasscannon is the only thing that can pen Armour 14 at range, and I see alot of it in my games (I will be fighting someone whom brings a Warhound Titan to the table). I had been running one Plasma Cannon Helbrute, and one with Twinlinked Lascannon. The TL Lascannon was so much better it hit more often and did more damage when it hit.

Also the Powerfists are nice to be able to start to put the hurt down on units get to close to the 'Castle'. in the 1750 pt games, they have won me a few games just on their CC abilty alone.
 

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I suppose it does come down to differences in meta :)

If I take an AV12 walker, people drop on it with sternguard in a pod and have first blood. But then, I don't miss the lascannons as I have Oblits and a bubble wrapped predator annihilator (which takes bubble wrap precedence). That and I love ST8 ignores cover, pinning blasts

My brute has a multi melta and lives in reserve. He comes out later to slap things when they're in range :)
 

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I suppose it does come down to differences in meta :)

If I take an AV12 walker, people drop on it with sternguard in a pod and have first blood. But then, I don't miss the lascannons as I have Oblits and a bubble wrapped predator annihilator (which takes bubble wrap precedence). That and I love ST8 ignores cover, pinning blasts :)
I stand mine at the start behind the Defense line, next to my Predator in range of the Plague marines and the cultists on the quad gun, so the last time someone tried the drop-pod 'meltaside' it went badly, the quadgun intersepted the squad and killed a few, the meltas got two pens and 'stunned it' (the others missed or were cover saved). the next turn it went kill frenzy on them and killed the rest of them.

But even if it was poped 'oh well' its just a single lascannon, it itself is distraction to the rhinos bringing the marines to the objectives they want to camp on.
 

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I stand mine at the start behind the Defense line, next to my Predator in range of the Plague marines and the cultists on the quad gun, so the last time someone tried the drop-pod 'meltaside' it went badly, the quadgun intersepted the squad and killed a few, the meltas got two pens and 'stunned it' (the others missed or were cover saved). the next turn it went kill frenzy on them and killed the rest of them.

But even if it was poped 'oh well' its just a single lascannon, it itself is distraction to the rhinos bringing the marines to the objectives they want to camp on.
Ah, that must have been epic :D, you know, you might have made me rethink about my mad helbrute of khorne. a quadgun & aegis, 10 cultists, an helbrute...255 pts of nasty homebase defense!!
 

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Ah, that must have been epic :D, you know, you might have made me rethink about my mad helbrute of khorne. a quadgun & aegis, 10 cultists, an helbrute...255 pts of nasty homebase defense!!
Yep.

I normally try and keep another unit close as well, I find the Cultists have a habit of melting away before the end of the game, (DE Venom Fire!) but in this 2250 list it will be the marines hiding in the landraider. (its mobile so it can be used to reinforce other issues should the opponent decide not to go after the homebase.
 

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If you have a quad gun and aegis, why not shoot the drop pod? You could potentially kill it straight off.
Giving away first blood would dissuade people from meltacide.
Say's the man whose aegis is almost painted :)
 

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If you have a quad gun and aegis, why not shoot the drop pod? You could potentially kill it straight off.
Giving away first blood would dissuade people from meltacide.
Say's the man whose aegis is almost painted :)
Because you fire it at the end of the movement phase, so the marines are out of the pod at that time. And as they are carrying the meltas they become the target not the AV11? stormbolter.
 

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Well, yeah... But if you fire an aegis at marines, you'll maybe kill one or two of them. Killing the empty drop pod gives you first blood. Then, even if the marines kill something with melta's it doesn't matter too much as you've already taken first blood.
Its just an idea :)
 

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Well, yeah... But if you fire an aegis at marines, you'll maybe kill one or two of them. Killing the empty drop pod gives you first blood. Then, even if the marines kill something with melta's it doesn't matter too much as you've already taken first blood.
Its just an idea :)
That is true, I have had a good run of luck recently so I have been going first alot. So first blood is something I am not even thinking about! but you are quite correct with that plan, takeing out the Drop pod is a good plan!

SO anyway... any other thoughts on the List?
 

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If I recall correctly, you can't take both a quad gun and an Icarus las cannon as part of that fortification. The base bastion allows for one battlefield/battlement option as part of it's rules in stronghold assault.
 
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If I recall correctly, you can't take both a quad gun and an Icarus las cannon as part of that fortification. The base bastion allows for one battlefield/battlement option as part of it's rules in stronghold assault.
You are quite correct!

Teaches me for saving points by not taking the Defense lines! Need to think on that.
 

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I recommend an "imperial strongpoint" from stronghold assault, its an aegis defense line and imperial bastion.
 

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I recommend an "imperial strongpoint" from stronghold assault, its an aegis defense line and imperial bastion.
Yes, I was thinking about that but was short on points.

But then I remembered I get 10% Point Discount for A Unit brought from the store that month, and as the Bastion will qualify for that! I can change the list to the Strongpoint.

Thus the list becomes: (and other CC welcome)

= HQ =
Daemon Prince. (Tridon the Sinister) – 340
[DoT, Wings, Armor, Black Mace, GoM, Rank 2 Pysker, Spell Familiar]

Chaos Lord. (Gnaeus the Infested) – 150
[LC, BBoS, MoN, SoC, Melta Bombs]

= Troops =

Cultists - 55
[10man, Heavy Stubber]

Chaos Space Marine Squad. (10 man) - 235
[10man, CCWs, Melta Gun x2 , Combi-Flamer (on AC), Rhino+Havoc. ]

Chaos Space Marine Squad. (10 man) - 235
[10man, CCWs, Plasma Gun x2, Rhino+Havoc. ]

Plague Marine Squad. (6 Man) – 169
[2 man, Plasma Guns, Meltagun]

Chaos Space Marine Squad. (5 man) - 90
[CCWs (Replace Bolters), Meltabombs (on AC)]


= Elites =
Hellbrute. - 125
[Lascannonscannon, Power Fist]

Hellbrute. - 125
[Lascannonscannon, Power Fist]

= Fast =

3 Chaos Bike - 100
[Meltaguns x2, Combi-melta (on AC)]

= Heavy Support =

Predator – 95
Autocannon Turret, Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Predator – 100
Lascannon Turret

Landraider- 235
Dirge Casters

= Fortifications. =

Strongpoint- 194
‘Imperial’ Bastion: Searchlights + Quad-Gun
Aegis Defence Lines: Icarus-Lascannon

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