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Hi everyone, longtime reader to the website and a big fan. FLGS is having a 12 man tournament and the time has come to write a 2000pt list that is both competitive in it's own composition and is able to be drawn from to create 1000, 1250, 1500, 1750 etc lists for different stages of the campaign. Without further ado, I give you my three 2000pt lists. Please be as critical as you can be bothered :)

Tournament List 1
2000pts
1990pts

Model Count: 47

HQ/
Daemon Prince [email protected] 175pts
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Daemon Prince [email protected]
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Elites/
Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Troops/
Chaos Space Marines [email protected]
- Aspiring Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Flamer
- Icon of Chaos Glory
- Rhino

Khorne Berserkers [email protected]
- Skull Champion w/ p. Fist
- Rhino

Plague Marines [email protected]
- Plague Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Meltagun
- Rhino

Noise Marines [email protected]
- Noise Champion w/ p.Fist +doom siren
- 6x Sonic Blaster
- Rhino

Heavy Support/
Obliterator Cult [email protected]

Predator Tank [email protected]
- Lascannon Sponsons

Predator Tank [email protected]
- Lascannon Sponsons
Tournament List 2
2000pts
1994pts
Model Count: 49

HQ/
Daemon Prince [email protected] 175pts
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Daemon Prince [email protected]
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Elites/
Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Troops/
Chaos Space Marines [email protected]
- Aspiring Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Flamer
- Icon of Chaos Glory
- Rhino

Khorne Berserkers [email protected]
- Skull Champion w/ p. Fist
- Rhino

Plague Marines [email protected]
- Plague Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Meltagun
- Rhino

Fast Attack/
Raptor Squad [email protected]
- 2x Meltaguns

Heavy Support/
Obliterator Cult [email protected]

Defiler [email protected]
- Reaper autocannon/ Heavy Flamer

Defiler [email protected]
- Reaper autocannon/DCCW

And last but not least,

Tournament List 3
2000pts
1995pts
Model Count: 49

HQ/
Daemon Prince [email protected] 175pts
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Daemon Prince [email protected]
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Elites/
Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Troops/
Chaos Space Marines [email protected]
- Aspiring Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Flamer
- Icon of Chaos Glory
- Rhino

Khorne Berserkers [email protected]
- Skull Champion w/ p. Fist
- Rhino

Plague Marines [email protected]
- Plague Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Meltagun
- Rhino

Fast Attack/
Raptor Squad [email protected]
- 2x Meltaguns

Heavy Support/
Obliterator Cult [email protected]

Defiler [email protected]
- Reaper autocannon/ Heavy Flamer

Predator Tank [email protected]
- Lascannon Sponsons


I'm leaning towards list 2 or 3 (more 2).

I'd also like to point out that while a bit costly for why they seem, my raptor squad (always geared the same way) has managed to more than make their points back every time ive used them (6 games), some notable highlights of their career being DSing in and blowing up a land raider crusader and a land raider whatever with AP3 flame cannon things, and then proceeding to hold up a squad of sternguard and Lysander for a couple turns. But If you can make a compelling case to remove them by all means put it forward :)

Thank you for your time.

- Dorash
 

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Instead of rating every list for every model, let's just rate the models. Your lists seem to carry the same synergy or lackthereof. So basically here's what you got:

HQ/
Daemon Prince [email protected] 175pts
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime

Daemon Prince [email protected]
- Wings
- Mark of Nurgle
- Warptime
I can somewhat understand the intent, making a dp almost immune to bolter fire is decent, but doesn't help him at all against tyranids(Who all have poisoned weapons and hit a ton), or against anti-tank fire, or melta/plasma which is what usually kills the DP's I used to run, instead if you're dead-set against using lash of submission(Why does everyone hate this? Guys it's good.) Perhaps try a tzeentch prince instead? The shrugging off of half tank fire is really quite good, and as you're the size of a walking school bus you won't get cover most of the time.

Though I really -REALLY- must advocate for the lashers, you save fourty points overall and add to the synergy of your army.

Elites/
Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta

Terminator Squad [email protected]
- 1x Chainfist + Heavy flamer
- 2x Combi Melta
This is almost the perfect setup to run terminators if you don't have chosen. But while you have gotten them an anti-tank option why not rely on the chainfist to do the job? But I must say these are not bad options, and they mess with the opponent. Keep them cheap, give them a one-turn option.


Troops/
Chaos Space Marines [email protected]
- Aspiring Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Flamer
- Icon of Chaos Glory
- Rhino

Khorne Berserkers [email protected]
- Skull Champion w/ p. Fist
- Rhino

Plague Marines [email protected]
- Plague Champion w/p. Fist
- 2x Meltagun
- Rhino

Noise Marines [email protected]
- Noise Champion w/ p.Fist +doom siren
- 6x Sonic Blaster
- Rhino
You'd be best off ditching both the noise marines and generic marines, they just don't do well in tournament play. Instead, bulk up the khorne zerks, give every rhino Extra Armor(Moving is IMPORTANT), and perhaps take a six man plague squad to guard home objectives with a pfist and double plasma?
But do not take ten plague marines, it's a waste of points.

Heavy Support/
Obliterator Cult [email protected]

Predator Tank [email protected]
- Lascannon Sponsons

Defiler [email protected]
- Reaper autocannon/DCCW
To be crystal clear the only thing holding it's own weight is those obliters. the predator costs way too much and defilers are like putting super walmarts on the game board, everyone can see them miles away.

Raptor Squad [email protected]
- 2x Meltaguns
I advocate these alot, so game on.


I don't think you need two squads of terminators if you're also taking raptors, seems like a waste. Take out generic marines, put in another squad of plagues, bulk up zerks, get a vindicator with daemonic possession if you need a battle cannon shot, and get two more oblits.

Also work on the princes, way too much these days just kills things without a high threat range or 4++
 

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Sorry to sound needy, does anyone else have any suggestions? The tournament starts tomorrow night and im keen to have some amount of competitiveness against the space wolves player and an imperial fists player with Lysander and plenty of thunder hammer termies.
 

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I like list three.

Some suggestions for the list:

Terminators: I would just add the combi-meltas, after they do their termicide jobs they will probably be shot up. I don't think its worth spending points on equipment you'll probably never use. Three terminators with combi-meltas is probably the most efficient choice.

Rhinos: All your rhinos need extra armor.

Defiler: Recommend that you replace this with a vindicator with daemon possession. The better armor REALLY helps.

Predator: Needs Daemonic Possession.

All those points that you took away should quell the points needed for these necessary upgrades. If not, taking out a marine here and there wont hurt.

Anyway, hope this helps.

Good Luck Heretic
 
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