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so, what is happening is that my little brothers (2 of them) are getting into warhammer 40k, and me and my friend wants to start up a new army. so the plan went like this

we each collect 1000 point, and then me and my friend goes against my little bros. they will be playing dark angels(primay force) and necrons(allias) and me and my friend will be playing dark eldar (primary force) and chaos daemons (allias)

i want to collect khorne, as i find khornes models to be FUN to paint and play.

here is my list so far, 1000 points of mono khorne.

hq

-bloodthirster /w greater rewards, exalted rewards
-300 points

troops

-20x bloodletters /w bloodreaper, greater reward
-225 points

-20x bloodletters /w bloodreaper, greater reward
-225 points

fast attack

-5x flesh hounds of khorne
-80 points

heavy support

-soul grinder /w daemon of khorne, phlegm bombardment
-165

995 points in total

so what do you guys think?
 

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Its a pretty nice list. a few changes i would make / Issues:

for 1000pts youve got alot invested into that bloodthirster (almost a third), yes he will carve his way though armies but i would drop the exalted reward to spend elsewhere. use the Greater reward to get the Khorne weapon for +1 attack (two Specialist weapons) and rampage for ur Bloodthirster (you dont have to use the unwieldy weapon ramapge is given to you just by owning it)
troops are nice and Large, though i would be tempted to see if you can drop down to 15, drop the champs and use 2 Heralds with a lesser gift (AP2 weapon) and a Locus (RAAAGGGEEE!!! or HATREEEDDDD!!!!). this would give them some nice hitting power and some more reliable AP2 as ur Heralds get a 2+ LOS roll whereas ur Unit champs only get 4+. plus heralds are stronger, tougher more woulds ect (plus the Khorne Herald model is so awesome)

Hounds are awesome this edition, though always take a squad of ten otherwise they are too easy to pick off. they are fast so are going to face the brunt of turn 1-2 shooting. take ten here if u can.

The soulgrinder is needed for skyfire (though ur Bloodthirster could handle the DA and Cron Flyers ur brothers may have) but for fluff and support why not try a Skullcannon? being able to charge into cover rocks, plus who doesnt liek a str 8 Large Blast.
whichever one u go for, Vehicles should be taken in pairs or ur enemys dedicated AT is going to wipe ur lonely tank Turn 1.

Other than that the list has a really good structure and if very fluffy!

FLUFF FOR THE FLUFF GOD!!!!
 

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Hello there,

If you are following the allied force organisation charts are you also following the rules for allies then? There is going to be an awful lot of sneering going back and forth between each team and units possibly not bothering to follow their commands.

The image is quite funny to be honest.

I would agree with Duskan, the Heralds were given a neat buff these days with their ability to take multiple heralds in the one HQ slot: Rage or Hatred on ap3 attacks with WS5 and str 5 on the charge just seems monstrous to any high armoured army, the weapons that they get on top of the ones that your champs get can also help spread out that high damage from the rewards that they can get as Duskan has pointed out the advantages of.

The bloodthirster does seem quite alot of points, he is already a pain train without the upgrades so maybe think about reducing those upgrades?
 

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page 94 chaos daemons codex

"each primary detachment in your army may include up to four heralds"

so does that meen that i have to be the primary list, or can an allias army do the same?

to take 4 heralds that is?
 

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Ah right yes, sorry I did not pay attention to that part of your post. Yes that can only be done if you are the primary detachment of the army.

Still even one herald buffing one of those units, or if you decide to swap out the bloodthirster in favour for another herald, will significantly buff those 2 units of bloodletters or flesh hounds.

Sorry, I am just used to playing 2v2's rather than adhering to the allies rules in the rulebook.
 

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no problemo :) but you can only take one hq, so i think i will just stick with mr.bloodthirster. i still like the soul grinder way to much to switch him :D
i used the points from the reward and 10 letters to buy 5 more flesh hounds, and two banners of blood.
 

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If its a doubles game u both count as primary detachment. Its not really allies.

If u are using allies and ur the "allied detachment" then I limits you. tbh in friendly doubles games just both of u use full detachment but refer to allies rules regarding how u treat each other and the such.
 

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So I have made to new lists, following your guys tips and tricks XD

The first one is the alias list, the second is the primary list, depends on what I will be playing.

hq

-bloodthirster /w greater rewards (greater etherblade (instead of his axe)), greater rewards (FUN)
-290 points

Troops

-16x bloodletters /w bloodreaper, greater reward (greater etherblade), banner of blood
-205 points

-16x bloodletters /w bloodreaper, greater reward (greater etherblade), banner of blood
-205 points

Fast attack

-8x flesh hounds of khorne
-128 points

Heavy support

-soul grinder /w daemon of khorne, phlegm bombardment
-165 points

993 points

This list is fluffy :D with 16 bloodletters and 8 hounds (truth be told, I removed two hounds to get under 1000 points, and then used the spare fore some letters.....but Still FLUFFY)

its pretty much a "hey-see-my-army-of-daemons-that-can-kill-you-in-a-second" army, with two giant FUN daemons to scare the slaaneshy shit out of my enemy. The hounds will be hunting after snipers and stuff like that, and my bloodletters will be my main flanking force, attacking from each site.

And now my primary list

hq

-herald of khorne /w lesser reward (etherblade), greater reward (random FUN), greater locus of fury
-105 points

-herald of khorne /w lesser reward (etherblade), greater reward (random FUN), greater locus of fury
-105 points

-karanak
-120 points

Troops

-16x bloodletters /w bloodreaper, lesser reward (etherblade)
-185 points

-16x bloodletters /w bloodreaper, lesser reward (etherblade)
-185 points

Fast attack

-8x flesh hounds of khorne
-128 points

Heavy support

-soul grinder /w daemon of khorne, phlegm bombardment
-165 points

993 points (wow same points....wicked)

Okay same tactic here, however, every unit is buffed. Rage for letters and hounds. But still same tactic. Use the grinder to take the enemy's firepower, while my hounds take down his snipers/hq. My letters will still flank from each side.

So what do you guys think? Worthy of khornes blessing?
 

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-bloodthirster /w greater rewards (greater etherblade (instead of his axe))
The Greater Etherblade does not 'swap out' for a weapon, it is an additional weapon, so you have the blade AND the axe. This means you gain an extra attack for having two specialist weapons. As Duskan suggested before, I'd go with the blade of blood as just being the bearer of it gives him rampage.
So effectively if you charge and are outnumbered, you get:

6 attacks base + 1 for charging +1 for two specialist weapons + D3 for rampage = 11 attacks max (10 max if you get charged)

If you smash instead (raising you to strength 10!):
3 attacks + 1 for charging +1 for two specialist weapons + D3 for rampage = 8 attacks max

This is not to be sniffed at all.

As with the primary list, I'd really suggest going axes of khorne rather than etherblades. Still Ap2, but insta-death on 6s to wound is awesome, and the same price!

Overall though lists look pretty good!
 

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hmmmmm.......axes it is :D
i have decided to use my primary list, as my darke eldar playes force, didnt have more then 1 elite/fast attack/heavy support. i will be making a blog of some form, about my building of my 3000 khorne daemon army, starting with these 1000 points.
thanks for the help from you all. may the blood spill in your favor >:D

ps. wil there be new apocalypse ruels soon? the old ones are starting to.....get outdated, and so many new things has been added, it only seem logical.
 

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okay update time

i will make a blog about as said before. i will have it open as soon as possible.
i have made a small change to my primary list. i have made each of the two bloodletter squads into 15 and given the hounds one more hound. this was to spare some money, as now i only need to by 3 boxes of letters rather then 4.

i will post a link soon, with my blog in it. untill then
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
 

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SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!!!

Will look forward to your plog/blog, good luck!
 
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