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Cato

Troop

2 ten man tac with melta, and missle launcher

1 ten man tac with melta, missle launcher, PF , Teleport Homer and rhino

Elite

Termi 5 man w/ cyclone missle launcher

Sternguard 5 man in a drop pod

Venerable Dreadnought in a drop pod

Heavy Support

Preadator w/ TLL, HBs, HKM

Vindicator w/ siege shield

Devastator squad w/ 2 Las cannons, 2 missle launchers





and that leaves me five pts i believe... advice gladly taken
 

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Actually scratch that list it failed epically...
this one is better i believe:


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Librarian - terminator armour, storm shield, avenger & nullzone


Elite


10 x Sternguard w/ Rhino - 4 x combi meltas


5 x Terminators - cyclone missile launcher


5 x Terminators - cyclone missile launcher


Troops


10 x Tactical Marines w/ Rhino - meltagun & missile launcher - sgt w/ combi melta & teleporter homer


10 x Tactical Marines w/ Rhino - meltagun & missile launcher - sgt w/ combi melta & teleporter homer


10 x Tactical Marines w/ Rhino - meltagun & missile launcher - sgt w/ combi melta & teleporter homer


Heavy Support


Vindicator


Vindicator
 

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I've seen the Termie Bubble list before but I've never run that type of list, or played against it.... Here's a link to Kirbys blog that talks about it. Here's another article by GWvsJohn that talks about using 10 Termies on foot

The big difference is that in the lists he has, he adds a ton more shooting. Until you get into assaults, you've only got two missiles and the cyclone auto cannons.

At the minimum, I would seriously consider dropping a tac squad, and then using the points for speeders. Also might consider swapping the vindis for preds with las sponsons.
 

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Also, to compare and contrast why the shooting bit is important...

In my 1850 list, I'm packing in 3 preds, 3 speeders, 3 Dreads, 3 TL Las Razorbacks w/ two full troop squads and one 5 man.

So in round one, all my energy goes into stranding your rhinos or popping your vindis... That's 13 tank based shooting threats vs your 6 tanks... I don't think your current list has a real answer for that. Looking at my list vs 10 termies - I have 6 las, 2 TL las, and 3 melta that can trash the termies (assmuming they get to shoot)
 

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Thanks CTL40K as usual your advice leads to a simple change that should've been done from the start.

Don't really use preds but will try i prefer vindi's maybe couple ironclads so i'll try it and pm you the result.
 

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CLT40K's advice is solid on this, and i do like your 2nd list a lot better; it's not all over the place like your first list.

good hunting.
 
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