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18 heroes in 18 novels across four years

The superhuman sons of the Emperor are more than just demi-gods of battle. They're also fascinating, complex characters... and soon you'll be able to read a whole lot more about them.

Each of the 18 volumes in this premium collection will tell an iconic tale of one of the galaxy's greatest heroes, during or perhaps even after the events of the Horus Heresy.

The series launches in May, with the story of the Avenging Son, master of the XIII Legion, Roboute Guilliman.



Right from the email blast that just landed in my inbox.
I simply LOVE that Black Library is getting up in gear again!
 

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Well someone beat me by a few minutes.

As long as they're not hideously over priced. Then cool beans! Looking forward to them all really, author depending though. I swear to fuck, if Swallow writes Sanguinius or anyone but Abnett writes Alpharius and Omegon...
 

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Well someone beat me by a few minutes.

As long as they're not hideously over priced. Then cool beans! Looking forward to them all really, author depending though. I swear to fuck, if Swallow writes Sanguinius or anyone but Abnett writes Alpharius and Omegon...
Let's be honest here, there are a number of primarchs that only a single BL author has done them true justice. Take Lorgar Aurelian- hands down this is ADB's bad boy. I mean, you can argue that this novella is already published. The same goes with ADB's claim to Night Haunter, although I will admit I could live with Abnett writing him after his bloody overpowered badarsery in The Unremembered Empire. And speaking of Abnett and his writing in TUE, I'd put Roboute Guilliman squarely in his corner alongside Alpharius and Omegon. He took a primarch I've always been 'meh' about (Guilliman) and turned him into someone I'd sit down with over a glass of wine. Although I have not forgiven Abnett for the atrocity that was his handling of Prospero Burns and I want him as far away from Russ as possible. I want to actually read about my beloved primarch and not some random human perpetual that he decides to pull from the woodwork.

The other primarchs i'm not sure about, though I keep leaning towards ADB for Angron as well. :laugh: ADB just writes the primarchs too well!
 

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I very much like the idea. But "this premium collection" has me worried what the first release will cost.
 

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Who should do who, in my opinion;

Lion El'Jonson - Gav Thorpe
Fulgrim - Unsure
Perturabo - Graham McNeill
Jaghatai Khan - Chris Wraight
Leman Russ - Chris Wraight
Rogal Dorn - John French
Konrad Curze - Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Sanguinius - James Swallow
Ferrus Manus - Anybody, he's just so damn boring and no writer has yet established him as a character I like. So I really don't care who does him.
Angron - Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Roboute Guilliman - Dan Abnett
Mortarion - Anyone, nobody has really claimed him in a way.
Magnus the Red - Graham McNeill
Horus Lupercal - Dan Abnett
Lorgar Aurelian - Aaron Dembski-Bowden
Vulkan - Nick Kyme
Corvus Corax - Gav Thorpe
Alpharius Omegon - Rob Sanders

I think the authors that have been writing about particular Legions, and have shown they understand the character of the respective Primarch, should be the one to write about said Primarch. Annandale writing about Guilliman is... mixed news I think. He's just so all over the place with writing quality, on the one hand you have the terrifying The Traveller and the wonderfully atmospheric Damnation of Pythos, and on the other hand the poorly edited, characterised and structured Death of Antagonis and the dull Typhus the Traveller shorts (Not to mention his desire to inject his Mary Sue character Setheno into all his main 40k stories.) Hopefully we'll have another Pythos and not another Antagonis with his take on the Avenging Son.


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Sorry but Gav Thorpe should not be allowed to do any of them.:ireful2:


Cost once again will raise its ugly head but at least this is over 4 years, we shouldn't be getting too spammed with books.

There has been some discussion about why they are not releasing the books in Legion order, obviously there are a lot of Papa Smurf haters out there, but I think Gooleyman will make a good first read.
 

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Gav would do fine with the Lion, I enjoyed the legacy of caliban series, as well the starter Angels of Darkness. And his recent the Emperor expects was an enjoyable read.
 

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Gav would do fine with the Lion, I enjoyed the legacy of caliban series, as well the starter Angels of Darkness. And his recent the Emperor expects was an enjoyable read.
Indeed, and his Raven Guard stories (Deliverance Lost, Soulforge, Ravenlord) all show that he has a great grasp of what makes Corax tick. I think he is the ideal writer to pen the Lion and the Ravenlord's origin stories.


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On another note, I could submit Andy Smilie for Blood Angels. He have shown he have a good hand on Flesh Tearers, and the heresy era Blood Angels needs a good bit more viciousness.
 

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On another note, I could submit Andy Smilie for Blood Angels. He have shown he have a good hand on Flesh Tearers, and the heresy era Blood Angels needs a good bit more viciousness.
Hmm I don't know. He could do Sanguinius's darker side justice, but could he capture the Great Angel's innate humanity, ethereal majesty and the essence that made him the greatest of the Emperor's Sons?? Not really sure.


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Gav would do fine with the Lion, I enjoyed the legacy of caliban series, as well the starter Angels of Darkness. And his recent the Emperor expects was an enjoyable read.
The guy couldnt write a peter and jane book unless he could find a way to put the word rockcrete in to every other sentance. Angels of Darkness was bar none the worst booking i've ever had to suffer.
 

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Then I respectfully have to disagre. I know he is an author with divided oppinion. But lets try to keep on topic of the series. It looks like Leman Russ is the second to come.

 

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I love the way the series blurb says the Primarchs are incredibly complex characters! ... I've read various Novels and they are FAR from complex, they are quite child like, simple and in some cases thick!
 

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Since these books appearently will revolve around iconic tales of the primarchs. Do you folks have any idea to what they could be or contenders for them? As in known legends of the primarchs that hasnt been touched on so far, or at least only in passing.

Given how little some of them has been fleshed out, especially with belicose Ferrus Manus dying before getting much screentime at all. I wonder how much they are needing to invent to fill out the books.
 

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Wouldn't it make more sense to write about the primarchs in the numerical order? 1, 2, 3, etc...

I know that they were all discovered by the emperor in a messed up order but still....1, 2, 3 makes more sense than 13, 1, 15...
 

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It would be great if it was chronological in the sense of the order they were found by The Emperor. But I'm sure BL won't want to commit to a definite order because it may ruin some deep dark piece of fluff somewhere.
 

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I love the way the series blurb says the Primarchs are incredibly complex characters! ... I've read various Novels and they are FAR from complex, they are quite child like, simple and in some cases thick!
Indeed. In giving legions their own style GW has largely made the Primarchs one trick ponies. There are some exceptions but but it could be difficult to add depth to some of them with trampling over a lot of existing fluff.
 

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Rogal Dorn has to be the Iron Cage right?

Curze I would guess would be him becoming the Night Haunter or his assassination and the lead up to it.

Angron, the slave rebellion on Nuceria up to his 'rescue' by the Emperor perhaps.
 
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