1750pts competitive mech

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AngelofHope

Discussion Starter · Oct 15, 2010 (Edited)

Ok, it seems my quest for my second army to make still continues. I am giving IG a shot, and so here is what I came up with:

HQ 180
Company Command Squad
Meltabombs
4 Meltaguns
Officer of the Fleet
-Chimera
Multilaser/Heavy Flamer

TROOPS 155
Veteran Squad
3 Meltaguns
-Chimera
Multilaser/Heavy Flamer

TROOPS 130
Veteran Squad
3 Meltaguns
Demolitions

TROOPS 130
Veteran Squad
3 Meltaguns
Demolitions

TROOPS 130
Veteran Squad
3 Meltaguns
Demolitions

FAST ATTACK 140
Vendetta Gunship
Heavy Bolters

FAST ATTACK 140
Vendetta Gunship
Heavy Bolters

FAST ATTACK 140
Vendetta Gunship
Heavy Bolters

HEAVY SUPPORT 140
Medusa
Bastion-Breacher Shells

HEAVY SUPPORT 245
Leman Russ Executioner
Side Plasma Cannons
Lascannon

HEAVY SUPPORT 220
Leman Russ Vanquisher
Lascannon
Pask

TOTAL: 1750pts, 55 models (47 Infantry, 8 Vehicles), 13 Kill Points

Obviously this is going for an Alpha Strike against inexperienced opponents, or against setups where there is shortage of meatshields

I'll now explain some of the things I chose, and why:

1. I didn't get an Astropath, as I dont think I am going to use Reserves, I very rarely do.

2. Vendettas have additional Heavy Bolters so they can mow down infantry in footslogger lists, or cause any additional damage to MCs (or, if I have blown up all enemy vehicles, to have them deal with their infantry).

3. I chose the Executioner for obvious reasons

I put a lascannon on it, so that it can have a chance against an AV14 vehicle coming its way, or cause an extra wound to an MC/Infantry unit.

4. I like the Medusa. It has no minimum range, it gives a S10AP2 pie, or a S10AP1 small blast if the target is out of range of its main ammo. Bastion Breacher Shells are also for nice anti-tank purposes, gives alternative choices.

5. Vanquisher + Pask= Tank/MC killers. I wish I had 30 more points to give it side multi-meltas for more shots...

6. I like it is only 13KP. Most IG lists I've faced with my CSM were 15KP+, my experience tells me that less KPs=KPs claimed with way more effort.

7. 4 Troops are ok I think. The Chimera squad is a purely "home objective" squad.

Any thoughts/comments?

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AngelofHope

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 15, 2010

HOBO said:
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Fine if it works..I don't like it because the Vendettas more often than not are lost when used as early - game transports...totally your call though (obviously). I'm not a fan of Doctrines either..90 pts that is better spent elsewhere.

I know what you mean, sounds similar to what many CSM players do with Twin Lash lists: Rush their DPs forward, too eager to Lash, rather than evaluate when it's wise to use that tactic or not.

As for this list, of course it depends on the enemy army, the estimated enemy player skill and the way he deploys which will make me decide whether or not to use an Alpha strike

HOBO said:
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You can't swap between the BB's and normal weapon profile, so you will have to use the BB's the entire game.

I didn't know that, that sucks..! What do you suggest, BBS or normal ammunition? +12" Range and -1AP in exchange for large pie... Your thoughts on this?

HOBO said:
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Great tank and very killy, although just because it has a Lascannon doesn't make it a good tank hunter.

Of course it doesn't make it a tank hunter, but I always try to have a "desperate last resort", in case let's say all the other A/T vehicles are Shaken and my Meltaguards are too far, perhaps I can get a lucky shot (it happens).

HOBO said:
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This is quite possibly the worst unit in the Codex aside from the Punisher..far too expensive and ineffective to be a reliable tank hunter, and the more you field it the more it will disappoint. Pask just makes it more of a points-sink. Your Medusa is a class above this even when its short range is factored in, and you also have your MeltaVets, plus for far less points you could take a Manticore which is an excellent long range anti-tank vehicle with the additional benefit of been a great anti-hoard/MC killer.

I was considering the Manticore, but I thought that with an average 1.5shots/turn, in 4 turns it's 6 shots. Would you waste 1-2 shots on vehicles, since they are limited? The minimum range also worries me, can you enlighten me in any tactical aspects I don't see? (Because I hear a lot of praise for the Manticore, I'd like to know more).

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