[Fallen]

Chaos Lord TLLC, MoT 135

Demon Prince MoS, Wings, LoS 155

Vindicator 125

Havocs champ w/ PW, 4 meltas 145

Bezerkers 8, PF, Champ 208

Noise Marines 10, PW, Champ, Doom Siren, Sonic blaster x10 295

Noise Marines 10, PW, Champ, Doom Siren, Sonic blaster x10 295

Rhino 35

Rhino 35

Rhino 35

Rhino 35

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ok so the general idea i got is the MoT lord rides with the Zerks & they just go to town being CC machines.

the Lash prince will run with the vindi & just be a total ass to infantry & pie plate them.

the NMs will either drive to the OBJs & hold them; or go somewhere thats open enough for them to have good LoS & just cause a 24" choke point around them, using the rhino as a shield if need be

the havocs will drive to whatever the wolves have as tanks & attempt to destroy it. im also thinking of running these guys with 4 flamers & a PF - thoughts?

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do note that im lacking oblits, defilers, and other vindicators :king:

 

[WarlordKaptainGrishnak]

Looks like a good list Fallen.

I was a bit confused about you taking the Melta Havocs, but after checking the Codex, it's fine. Essentially a squad of Chosen with Meltas without the extra 3pts for Infiltrate.

Good luck with the list.

Grish

 

[ROT]

If your taking Melta-Havocs, you might aswell take Melta-Chosen. (5 Meltagun chosen = 140, yours = 145 for 4)
If you lose the vindicator, your going to be in the shit heavily.. Doesn't take anything special to blow up a vindicator on turn on, So don't count on it lasting (Take two)

You might aswell just take a Lash list, if that's the type of gaming your interested in.

 

[jondoe297]

Vindie needs DP, and like ROT said you could do with 2!
You have very little long range support which is useful!
Swap the havocs for chosen with meltas,
Drop the noise marine squads down to 6! Give one a champ with a Doom siren and either a PF or PW, the other squad could take a BM! Sit that squad on obj and use the other squad to support your zerkers!
Get your second Vindie with the points spare
Oh and stick EA on the rhinos!

 

[Fallen]

ok so ive come up with a tentative new list

Chaos Lord TLLC, MoT 135
Demon Prince MoS, Wings, LoS 155

Vindicator 125

Dread 2 DCCW 100

Bezerkers 8, PF, Champ 208
Noise Marines 7, PW, Champ, Doom Siren, Sonic blaster x7 220
Noise Marines 7, PW, Champ, Doom Siren, Sonic blaster x7 220

Rhino 35
Rhino 35
Rhino 35
Total 1268
Extra 232

so the issue is that ive got 232 points (or 332 if i drop the dread, which the 1st/2nd person ill prolly mention)

what should i use to fill the void?

& ive mentioned before - i have no more vindicators / other heavy support tanks other than a LR

 

[Inquisitor Malaclypse]

good ideas, but it just feels like any thing that stands out on its own will be an easy kill point for Long Fang spam, and at 140 points (IIRC) per squad with ML only you're looking at 3 units that can direct S8 fire at six different targets.

i think your DP, Vindie, and your Dread are vulnerable to that.

if he decides to be mechanized and take a Rune Priest (you probably have a good idea what your opponent is fielding, hence your set up) then Lash is that much weaker.

i'd use NM with Doom Sirens, forget the Sonic Blasters, they're too expensive. the ability to ignore armor saves will help you more against MEQs then riddling with Assault 2 bolters.

a Chosen squad with ML could be useful to knock out TWC, Dreads, or LFs if he takes any of them (and let's be honest, 1500 is enough points for the SW to do all these things).

also, a maxed out Chosen flamer squad with IoS of IoK would help out.

i've always believed that MEQs v. MEQs going faster is a great advantage.

i don't know, i may have given you a pile of turd for advice, but i own and have cobbled together a few lists for Space Wolves. these guys can really give CSM a run for their money.

good hunting.

 

[Fallen]

so here is the list i ran

Chaos Lord TLLC, MoT 135
Demon Prince MoT, Wings, WT, BoC 155

Dread DCCW & ML 100

Bezerkers 8, PF, Champ 208
Noise Marines 7, PW, Champ, Doom Siren, Sonic blaster x7 220
Noise Marines 7, PW, Champ, Doom Siren, Sonic blaster x7 220
Plague 9, Champ, PF, 2x plasma gun 277

Rhino 35
Rhino 35
Rhino 35
Rhino 35

Total 1500

and id like to report back & tell you all i won 8 - 2 via kill points

the opponent ran thunder cav, 3 grey hunters(?) (PF, melta)x2 the 3rd had 4 PWs, PF - & had a rune priest

also had some wolves...oh & 5 bikes w/some character & attack bike

the dread won MVP award: destroyed the bike squad, killed 6/7 of 1 GH squad, killed 3 thunder cav & caused a wound on the Thunder cav boss - who let "fido" a wolf "wound" take the hit. - approximately 800+ points

plague marines did shit all - got charged by the "ill kick your ass" group of GHs

...all i lost was 1 NM squad & the Plague marines... not bad after 5 turns