[Seadgs]

Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Combined Arms Detachment) (1481pts)

Daemon Prince (270pts)
Aura of dark glory (15pts) ,Khorne (15pts), Power Armour (20pts), The Murder Sword (35pts), Warlord, Wings (40pts)

Chaos Terminators (209pts)
Veterans of the Long War (15pts)
Terminator x 3
Combi-Bolter, Lightning Claw
Terminator Champion (48pts)
Combi Bolter, Gift of Mutation (10pts), Lightning Claw (5pts)
Terminator with Heavy Weapon
Heavy Flamer (10pts), Lightning Claw (3pts)

Chaos Space Marines (258pts)
9x Chaos Space Marines in the unit (117pts), Icon of vengeance (25pts), Meltagun (10pts)
Aspiring Champion (41pts)
Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Chainaxe (8pts), Gift of Mutation (10pts)
9x CCW and Boltgun loadout (18pts)
9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Boltgun, 9x Close Combat Weapon
Chaos Rhino (47pts)
Combi-bolter, Havoc Launcher (12pts), Searchlight, Smoke launchers

Chaos Space Marines (96pts)
4x Chaos Space Marines in the unit (52pts), Veterans of the Long War (5pts)
Veterans of the Long War
Aspiring Champion (31pts)
Bolt Pistol, Boltgun, Chainaxe (8pts)
4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Close Combat Weapon

Heldrake (170pts)
Baleflamer

Raptors (258pts)
Icon of vengeance (25pts), 2x Meltagun (20pts)
9x Raptor (153pts)
9x Bolt Pistol, 9x Close Combat Weapon
Raptor Champion (60pts)
Combi-bolter (3pts), Gift of Mutation (10pts), Lightning Claw (15pts), Melta Bombs (5pts)

Defiler (220pts)
Battle Cannon, Daemonic possession, Power Scourge (25pts), Reaper Autocannon

Sorry for the format, like I said, I'm new. I've picked up a few great deals on ebay to get started and just want to run this by you guys. Basically, I just need a sanity check to see if I am heading in the right direction because I have no idea what I'm doing.

 

[neferhet]

Hi, welcome on the boards.
First of all, remove all the itemized point cost, it's against forum rules.

then...mmh.
the list need some tweaking
First thing first: all the Boons of mutations are a waste of points, imo. Remove them and save lots of points.

The Khorne DP can live wothout the sword. Instead, use the Black Mace, much more effective. Also, he already is a deamon, so doeasnt need the aura of glory....

Terminators. Just stick with the point/efficent unit of terminators:
3 terminators, 3 combiplasma (112) they deepstrike, they trash a unit of heavy infantry and if they survive, they charge and kill something.

All chaos marines need a rhino. I usually do this:
10 marines, bolters, 2 meltaguns,meltabombs champion, rhino (200) you can add the icon of vengeance, if you feel like running away is not good for you :biggrin: in your case, take this unit twice and you are served.
Defiler is fluffy and funny. it's good.
Heldrake is a nobrainer. Agreed.
Raptors...you might as well do this:
5 raptors, 2 meltaguns, meltabombs ( 120)
5 raptors, 2 meltaguns, meltabombs ( 120)
same bodies, more plasma, less cost, more targets, more mobility. I think you should still have some points to play with, adding maybe 5 havocs with 4 autocannons for clearing hordes and light vehicles?

 

[Squire]

Yea, what neferhet said.

With the terminators I'd just use what comes in the box and not bother with the lightning claws. Partly out of laziness (not having to spend money on claws or convert) and partly because the entire unit with claws can't harm anything with a 2+ save and they're all just strength 4. The CC weapons that come in the box are a good mix of what you'd want. Also for modelling and painting a mix of weapons is more fun.

I guess if I wanted to run terminators without a land raider I'd consider three options

1. A unit of three with three combi plasmas or meltas. Probably the best choice from a competitive perspective

2. A unit of five with a heavy flamer. No other upgrades, they're just a reasonably cheap unit that can kill enemy infantry effectively and grab an objective

3. Similar to option 2, but with more of a punch. One or two power fists, a chainfist, one or two axes, maybe a maul, a heavy flamer and a combi melta. All of the weapons come in the box and while they cost more points they're a lot more dangerous if they don't get shot off the table on the turn they arrive