[austothehun]

I've had the BT codex for a while now and thought I would make a semi competitive list to play.

HQ (140pts)

-Emperor's Champion (140pts)
Accept Any Challenge, No Matter The Odds

Troops (535pts)

-Crusader Squads (194pts)
5x Initiate, LasCannon , Plasma Gun
-Razorback
Smoke Launchers , Twin-Linked Lascannon

-Crusader Squads (194pts)
5x Initiate , LasCannon , Plasma Gun
-Razorback
Smoke Launchers , Twin-Linked Lascannon

-Crusader Squads (147pts)
7x Initiate , 2x Neophytes , Powerfist and Bolt Pistol

Fast Attack (70pts)

-Land Speeder Typhoon (70pts)
Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher

Heavy Support (253pts)

-Land Raider (253pts)
Power of the Machine Spirit, Smoke Launchers

Tactics

The emperor's champion rolls in the land raider with his bros. The reason it's not a crusader is because I felt like I needed more anti vehicle but now I'm starting to consider removing the neophytes and making it a crusader. The land speeder stays back and shoots missiles at stuff while the razorbacks slowly advance. Seeing as there's alot of str 7 going around people may not have the means to deal with AV 14 :laugh:. Thoughts anyone?

 

[Woodzee316]

list looks good for 1000 points but there is one thing that you might not be aware of and that is your EC can't be your warlord so you would need to include another hq. and i would definately drop the neo's and get the LRC.

in order to get a cheap warlord you could drop the speeder and one initaite pick up a castellan give him a power sword, storm shield and bolt pistol, and he rides with the LRC boyz as well.

 

[austothehun]

Whoops I didn't catch that one. I could also take a reclusiarch with a bolt pistol for the same points as the castellen and get re-rolling for all the rage attacks. But then I'd loose rites of battle . Any ideas on which is preferable?

 

[Woodzee316]

i think in your army you've got listed i would take the reclusiarch as your troops are pretty much utilising transports so you won't really be doing to much zeal moving. maybe also split your big hitters up put your chaplain in the land raider crusader the Emporer's champion in a razor back and the powerfist guy put in the other one.

Are your guys using sword and pistol, bolters or combinations of the 2, except the ones with the heavy weapons.

If you go with the Chaplain i would suggest that all those guys were close combat weapons to make use of the re-roll. That way they can assault out of the LRC.

hope this helps you a bit.

NO PITY, NO REMORSE, NO FEAR

 

[d3m01iti0n]

A rule of thumb Ive always stuck with is one troop choice per 500 points. I would drop one troop and load the LRC to the hilt, and pack in a geared up Chappy inside. Leave the Razorback on the back line to snipe armor and move up near endgame to grab objectives if needed. The points you saved dropping a troop should be able to afford you an LRC, that way you save on Frags for the dedicated CC squad. Use the LRC squad to go immediately for their Warlord. If you get the charge you are probably going to wipe whatever you aim it at. Consider taking a Flamer for that squad, and ditch the Fist for an Axe. You wont double Str like a Fist, but youll get more attacks not being a Specialist weapon.

We get hurt on smaller point games because of the mandatory EC, but all is not lost. Nowadays I play with a Kill Em All style, because having my troops run off objectives (or Going to Ground to keep them on it). I play very offensively and take wins off of unit and Warlord kills. Here are two other list options for you as well: you could always drop the LR, run a Black Tide w/ Chappy and Servitors (9 inch Zeal!) and bring another Typhoon.

OR......drop a troop, drop the Razorback and Typhoon and run TWO LRCs both with small Crusader squads, one with EC one with the Chappy. Two LRCs at 1000 points. Its a lot of eggs in two baskets but at 1k opponents will be hard pressed to take one down, let alone both. I just picked up a second LRC and Ill have a third soon, and Ive been capitalizing on their dedicated transport status.

 

[austothehun]

Thanks for the responses!

The 2 LRCs seem very tempting.

 

[d3m01iti0n]

I mathhammered an 1850 list with four LRCS, two with 5 man CC squads, two with 5 man shooty squads. I think thats what Im going to play til our new book.

 

[Woodzee316]

i tend to disagee about 2 LRC at 1000 pnts having 3 different targets prevents concentrated fire power. twin linked lascannons on 2 separate sides will force opponent to target those as str9 ap2 will shred anything. The LRC is a big threat but if you turn it into a death star unit it will draw alot of fire which would then leave your twinlinked razorbacks to cause carnage. on the other hand if they try to stop your Lazorbacks it gives your LRC time to advance through the middle. Hving only two targets albiet it is two LRC's your enemy will probably work on taking one out as they are considered tanks so they don't have a really have fast movement speed. i only say this is i've used the tactic before and lost one LRC before it got half way accross the board.

i agree that four LRC at 1850 loaded up might work because you are creating alot of big targets. but with all the hull point rules it can sometimes let you down.

but again at 1000 points you need to create multiple threats with your armour so that everything can get a chance to do what it needs too.

i have run two lazorbacks and a LRC at this many points and it did very well as people see the LRC and hit the panic button and go after it and it lets your lazorbacks wreak alot of damage before people realize what is happenning. i didn't want to change austothehuns list as i believe everyone has their own ideas i just pointed out a few options to think about and to make the list legal.

And yes so hanging out to see what our new codex will be like hurry the frag up GW. :biggrin: