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Default What's the best warrior/melee fighter type in Warhammer

I'm going either with war dancer or vampire knight

what do you think?
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Blood Knights are great because they can be "healed," but their Frenzy can be a serious Achilles Heel to them. They are incredibly strong, though, with plenty of attacks. I'll probably have to agree with you here, MtM, if only with respect to Cavalry.

For infantry, I'll have to say Sword Masters of Hoeth. There are plenty of things that can crumple them (shooting, some magic, etc, all of which seem to be out of the scope of the question at hand), but just considering the Sword Masters themselves, they're renowned for obliterating entire units at a time with a minimum number of models.

War Dancers are great, yes, but I like the stability and capability of the Sword Masters just slightly more. Sword Masters' focus overrides the adaptability of the War Dancers. However, I am considering the High Elven army as a whole, too. If I wanted a durable infantry unit, I'd go with Phoenix Guard. If I wanted a can opener unit, I'd go for White Lions. If I wanted a unit to slice swathes through enemy formations, that alone rests in the capable hands of the Sword Masters.

A close second would be Chaos Warriors. They have just as many options as War Dancers (but only with equipment, marks, etc), but they offer a wide array of uses and tactical implications. They're durable and have a heft offensive capacity to boot.

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Blood Knights are great because they can be "healed," but their Frenzy can be a serious Achilles Heel to them. They are incredibly strong, though, with plenty of attacks. I'll probably have to agree with you here, MtM, if only with respect to Cavalry.

For infantry, I'll have to say Sword Masters of Hoeth. There are plenty of things that can crumple them (shooting, some magic, etc, all of which seem to be out of the scope of the question at hand), but just considering the Sword Masters themselves, they're renowned for obliterating entire units at a time with a minimum number of models.

War Dancers are great, yes, but I like the stability and capability of the Sword Masters just slightly more. Sword Masters' focus overrides the adaptability of the War Dancers. However, I am considering the High Elven army as a whole, too. If I wanted a durable infantry unit, I'd go with Phoenix Guard. If I wanted a can opener unit, I'd go for White Lions. If I wanted a unit to slice swathes through enemy formations, that alone rests in the capable hands of the Sword Masters.

A close second would be Chaos Warriors. They have just as many options as War Dancers (but only with equipment, marks, etc), but they offer a wide array of uses and tactical implications. They're durable and have a heft offensive capacity to boot.
wow nice commentary, I was asking the question more from a fluff perspective but your tabletop breakdown was enlightening

i think the war dancers look the coolest though, tattooed celtic-inspired elven berserker-ninjas...you have to admit that's pretty tight
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Fluff wise... Is Gotrek awesome enough to be considered his own type? I'd probably say Blood Knights, because they're VAMPIRES!!!!!!!!

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Fluff wise... Is Gotrek awesome enough to be considered his own type? I'd probably say Blood Knights, because they're VAMPIRES!!!!!!!!
what am i hearing this correctly? a dwarf is a better fighter than the sages of heoth, the way watchers of athel loren and the true priests of sigmar helndhammer. oh and screw vampires id go with swordmasters any day or perhaps white lions.

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oh and screw vampires id go with swordmasters any day or perhaps white lions.
elves who specialize in fighting with axes...cool (just looked up white lions)
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what am i hearing this correctly? a dwarf is a better fighter than the sages of heoth, the way watchers of athel loren and the true priests of sigmar helndhammer. oh and screw vampires id go with swordmasters any day or perhaps white lions.
Yeah!!! Gotrek could pwn Sigmarite priest or a way watcher any day. And by best I meant most skilled or powerful, I'm not a fan of Vamps.

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Well I dunno about who is the strongest as such, but when it comes to fighting horde armies, it's witch elves every time!

(Although you have to admit, the models for corsairs are much prettier!)

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`Thirster owns quite alot of stuff but for me its has to be Vamp Lords, I mean common! the customisability ( spelling? lol ) is immense, either a CC monster or an awesome Wizard, if not both...

The best rank and file infantry at melee..... Sword masters( or Executioners? ) with Blood Knights on the charge being up there and of course all the chaosy stuff like Daemons, Chosen etc
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