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post #21 of 33 (permalink) Old 08-27-09, 04:56 PM
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well, they're not exactly half goat half human as most of them have sharp teeth, something neither goats nor humans have...
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As many have said GW were using existing mythology such as the Satyr, Minotaur and Centaurs (chaos armies used to have Centaur until they GW created the Centigor to better fit with the rest of the Beastmen). There are mentions of Tiger faced Beastmen in Ind (which would be cool).
Maybe there were all sorts of Beastmen originally but the goat's rapid breeding rate and tendency to form herds gave them a genetic advantage over more solitary Beastmen types (bears etc) and they almost wiped the other Beastmen out.
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in early editions of the game beastmen were completely random and could be a mix of any creature and man; in fact many of them didn't have an obivous animal origin at all. it seems to me that the fixation on goat/men has more to do with the easy production of miniatures, rather than any kind of background explanation. making the models look similar makes it quicker and chear to produce models, as well as making the modelling side of the hobby easier for the gamer.

as to why goat/men rather than bird/men, fish/men, snake/men or whatever, i doubt that it has much to do with classical mythology. there is no example of a goat-headed man in greek mythology that i can think of, fauns and satyrs had distinctly human faces and were always depicted as such. the ancient Assyrians had crazier man/animal combos and we already know that their pantheon was part of the inspiration behind Nurgle, but as they were uniterested in goats as far as i can tell, it doesn't seem that likely. the ancient Egyptians are a more likely source of inspiration of goat-headed men, with Khnum who actually did have a goats head.

but by far the most likely is nothing directly to do with any of those. i would imagine that the goat-headed man is taken from the biblical depiction of goats being a metaphor for evil and particularly the descriptions of demonic beings in apocalyptic visions being akin to them, and also from the consequencial use of goat imagery in satanism (or at least in depictions of satanism). in this imagery, goats are seen as typifying evil, as opposed to simply being a representative of a domestic animal, as they are in other mythologies.

personally i would really like to see Ind explored in the background, and possibly even and Ind army. i can imagine all sorts of amazing beastmen based on Hindu mythology, with elephant/men, peacock/men and tiger/men adding some amazing colour. its also worth remembering that Lizardmen and Skaven were both considered beastmen (and Skaven still are).

if you're looking for other forms of beastmen, try taking a look at the Wargods range, they have some particularly cool models, including the Basti (cat/men) and the Sobeki (crocodile/men). also there are a couple of models in the Helldorado range that would make for some awesome Tzeentchen crow/men.
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Thanks guys


Ive modeled a WIP birdman but it looks like a rooster so im going back to the drawing board
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The fluff does mention beastmen that look like other animals and they used to have models that represented these but they stopped making them.
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I don't think you have to change it, after seeing an imperial guard army built out of skinks i think you can do what you like. Just make your own fluff, after all they are your minis
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now this is what chaos beastmen used to look like
http://www.solegends.com/citjour85ba...r85b027-01.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcomp3/citcomp3029-01.htm
http://www.solegends.com/citcat88/0207rocbeast.jpg

and i have some around here somewhere that my dad painted, when they first come out

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those are absolutely excellent. i particularly like the guy with 4 hoofed limbs, leaving no room for hands, making him pretty much useless.
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Beastmen vary depending on the animals that are common in the areas where they developed. Around the forests of the Empire, that means goats for some reason.
The idea that keeps flitting around in my mind, is the Beastmen that arose around the Southern Chaos Gate. I want to make an entire army of Penguin-men from the south. Maybe use Seal-men and Polar Bear-men to represent some of the variations, but mostly angry, armed, Chaos-worshipping penguins.

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I'm still waiting for Man-Bear-Pig models...no luck yet.

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