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I find it, at the very least, hard to believe that after years of being completely ignored (or worse) a Sisters of Battle update would appear in the very next White Dwarf without any sort of warning beforehand.
Would they do that? I mean, not even on the back page of a previous issue? Or an "Incoming" newsletter? Christ, even 2nd wave models are given an advance order email.

The overall impression that I'm starting to get from these rumours (not that I didn't know already) is that GW is just half-assing it on the Sisters. Personally, I could have waited until the new codex, no matter how late. They managed to do that with an actual DE release, why can't they do that with Sisters? I don't know the history of the Blood Angels WD codex, but it seems easier to squat an army that doesn't have an actual codex anymore.

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I think that the WD update thing is a crock of shit....... It failed miserably with the Blood Angels and I don't see them doing it again. Its my opinion that since the only person to ever to have mention a WD update is Blood of Kittens, I put no weight in this rumor at all. As MetalHandkerchief said trollers gonna troll.

The Blood Angel update being a bucket full of poo had to due more with the complete failure that was the Dark Angel Codex(which the BA WD Dex was based on).

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In regards to ghost 21's rumors:

The box sets mentioned still give me pause.

If it is normal sisters and phim, then where are the heavy weapons? Standard troop boxes normally have at least one or two heavy options, but no heavy weapons were mentioned in the sprue descriptions.

I think we can be confident that anyone coming new to the sisters once we finally get a full redo won't be using chunky metal heavy weapons...so why no info on a retributor box?

Or did he say these two that are ready now? possibly to be released with the WD update?


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Repentia are Sisters who have or have seen themselves to have failed the Sisterhood in a major way. When this occurs they ceremoniously stripped of their armour and equipment and mourned as having died.
They then don a robe made from the torn remains of their previous robe, have their head shaved (The Hair style is as symbolic as everything else) and are given a Eviscerator and live apart from the Sisters.
In battle, groups of the Repentia are lead by a Mistress to charge the enemy, in order to find forgiveness and salvation in death.
They are a literal Forlorn Hope.
An Order of Sisters of Battle will never have many Repentia on hand. If they did they would need to seriously work out what was happening within their ranks. And are never viewed as an expendable resource, One which would be readily depleted when used but never expendable.

In games terms they (SHOULD) form a lovely anti-tank or really, anti-everything unit.
However, the 0-1 option in the codex was perfectly fitting. You shouldn't need more then one squad. Besides if you were taking more then that the Canoness would really have to see where the problem lay.

The idea that you could now not only buy Repentia in larger numbers but may even be REQUIRED to have any kind of Infiltration/scout or even just a CC unit really starts to bug me.
Has the Sisterhood suddenly become populated solely by ladies with Extreme Guilt Complexes?

If these rumours are true then I don't think I'll even recognise the Sisters when they are updated. They'll be some strange foreign parody being sold under the same name. The 'Transmorphers' to the Sisters 'Transformers'.

I... Really don't know if I should even be hopeful any more.
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In battle, groups of the Repentia are lead by a Mistress to charge the enemy, in order to find forgiveness and salvation in death.
They are a literal Forlorn Hope.
I agree with your explanation, but not with the implementation. Rather than having them charge in like Leeroy Jenkins and fouling the Sisters' lines of fire, I'd prefer them as a counter-charge unit that redeems themselves by holding off the enemy while the others regrouped.

The mechanism I suggested when I mailed the dev team was that Repentia would grant the Hit and Run USR to other Sister's units when they entered a combat.
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Making them scouts is beyond the pale.
I think you misunderstood this (then again I can't be 100% sure) but I seriously doubt they would be the Sisters scouts. The Scout rule however I could totally see them being given.

From my understanding the Sisters Repentia and Penitent Engines are the first to enter any combat as if I remember correctly "they rush ahead of the main force in a desperate need for redemption".

The Scout rule and Fleet is something I've always thought would be perfect for the Sisters Repentia and Penitent Engine.

With the Holy Rage rule this would mean they could scout 7-12" or outflank and the same goes for PE. With Holy Rage they are both at a disadvantage but if you could get them that closer to combat or outflank they would become allot scarier rather than something to laugh at.

Sister Repentia as Troops or a SC that makes them Troops and Penitent Engines in Fast Attack (dare I say a SC that make them Troops? I'd love this ), with the Scout and Fleet rules is the way I was considering them in my Ordo Sepulturum dex.
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I agree with your explanation, but not with the implementation. Rather than having them charge in like Leeroy Jenkins and fouling the Sisters' lines of fire, I'd prefer them as a counter-charge unit that redeems themselves by holding off the enemy while the others regrouped.

The mechanism I suggested when I mailed the dev team was that Repentia would grant the Hit and Run USR to other Sister's units when they entered a combat.
Originally they were part of a squad and if the squad was charged they would counter charge the enemy leaving the main squad unmolested.
They would inevitably die but the enemy is now standing 4" away from the Sisters who get a lovely turn of free-shooting to make.
This was in the Citadel Journal days.
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I... Really don't know if I should even be hopeful any more.
I'm pretty sure that the sky is falling, but what hope remains goes something like this:


* Jes said in November that Plastic Sisters had not even been begun, and would not be started in the immediate future (implication was no sooner than June at the earliest).

* Jes is not only a sculpter, but head of the plastics department, so even if he himself is not on the Sisters project, he would have accurate information about the project.

* A new plastic kit requires a lead time of around 12 months - if everything goes well (Harry), and Sisters had problems which Jes admitted had yet to be solved in November. So even if they started that day, it's unlikely that the kits will be ready by the end of the year.

* Ghost21 claims to have seen sprues, and that the Sisters will get a WD update. We've just established that sprues are unlikely to exist at this moment, and WD updates never come with models. If Ghost is wrong about one thing, we have little reason to trust the others.

* Stinger989 - who does have a good rep for knowing what he's on about - backs up the idea of a WD update, but he has NOT seconded any of Ghost's other rumours, such as kits and troop Repentia.


From this, this is what I believe:

1) Sisters will get a White Dwarf update before the end of the year.
1a) The update will have minimal changes and its purpose is solely to drive the last nail into the coffin of allies.
1b) There probably will be minor updates to point costs.
1c) Inquisition units will likely not be present, but copy & pasted Zealots might, who knows?
1d) No model kits will be released to accompany the WD update.

2) The Sisters will receive a full codex in the second half of 2012.
2a) Plastic Sisters.

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* Jes said in November that Plastic Sisters had not even been begun, and would not be started in the immediate future (implication was no sooner than June at the earliest).
Where are you getting your information?
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Rather than copy and past it I'll just direct you to post #2 of this very thread.

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