Rumours Section 7
While reading the usual forums I came across this. Take it for what it is, if it is true we will have to wait until late July/August before we would know if GK got the October slot.
I do believe we will see a 40k codex in October but which one I cant say for sure.
Since they have told us what's in the September slot I would expect them to tell us what's in the October slot sometime next month.
However, this is what some of the rumours suggest. So if we look at the below statement could it mean GK getting released sooner? Its hard to judge since we have 3 rumoured release dates for GK; Oct, Dec and Jan with Oct and Jan being the more reasonable. So if its earlier than the rumours suggest then Oct would seem the most likely. I guess a December release is plausible if GW launches the StormRaven in hopes for a new Vendetta sales record just in time for Christmas.
Then again the little birdies tells me to burn stuff all the time so use your own judgement regarding this rumour
Originally Posted by Lerra
A little birdy told me to expect the removal of allies in the GK codex. He also says to expect the codex "earlier than the rumors are suggesting." He just sold his GK army so that he could paint up the new models when they are released (he said that the new models are looking pretty stellar, on par with the new Dark Eldar models). He's not planning to be without his army for very long.
GW is being very tight-lipped about the GK release, and he said to expect it to be very quiet on the rumor front until 2 months before release.
I'm still taking this with a grain of salt (I want to keep my daemonhost ally ) but the source seemed reliable and I can confirm that he has contacts with the higher-ups in GW.
Was listening to The 11th Company Podcast Ep 22 and at around 150 minutes in, when talking about the Elite section of the space marine codex, one guy mentions that Inquisitors with mystics are going away in December.
This statement is kinda of curious, GK in December then? Something GW has never done before but would make sense if they launched the storm raven at the same time.
timsmith just posted a link to a blog post.
Originally Posted by timsmith View Post
just spotted this link over on the GK forum. Havent seen it yet so thought id post it.
fritz is a well respected tournament player and it shouldnt be blown streight out of the water. But we have heard things before.
Originally Posted by Fritz
So GW has just put up the Daemonhunter codex online: Link Here if you want to grab it. I was hoping they would fix the assault cannon from heavy 3 to 4 with rending but oh well. However, this only confirms to me the rumors, and a tip off that I can't name yet that Daemonhunters are the next codex to drop in the October slot. If half of what I have heard is true the new 'knights are going to make Blood Angels look like Twilight emo rejects in terms of being over powered- S6 power weapons with rending as standard...oops did I say that...
Dark Eldar players take another punch in the nuts and go back to the end of the line...(Well Said :D)
S6 rending weapons was posted by the guy over at DakkaDakka who later said he made it all up so take this with a grain of salt. I would really like GK to be next but who knows.
Beasts of War have an extensive video up where they talk about the Geek Nations Tour (TUUR).
They mention they are unsure what will be next, DE or GK so they have changed their minds from saying GK are next to being unsure :D
YouTube- Inside BOW: Geek Nation Tours
Bell of Lost Souls has a small article about Radical Daemonhunters. Nothing new but its still worth a look if you like radical Inquisitors. They mention GK is rumours for a Jan 2011 release but nothing concrete on a release date. While waiting for new information its worth the read.
Just some general thoughts on my part. With the Fantasy rumours today it seems that there will be a Fantasy starter box in September.
From what I know its called Island of Blood and is to be released in September, no news yet on races but people have been talking High Elves and Skaven.
I was hoping for a 40k release in September but that seems very unlikely right now. This puts us in a rather tight spot for DE and GK this year.
The people who usually bring us rumours claim DE are next and October would be a likely month for a release, on the other hand a few webshops say GK will be out this year.
I would like to see both but I seriously doubt that will happen though there have been some speculation about a December release for the GK tied in with a Stormraven release just in time for Christmas.
This rumour has been shot to pieces by allot of people simply because GW has never had a new release in December, only boxed sets and bundle deals.
So where does this put us? This is my personal speculation from what Ive gathered around the web, its in NO way official.
October : 40K Release, most likely Dark Eldar
November : Fantasy Release
December : Christmas bundles and sets
January : 40K Release, most likely Grey Knights
SamaNagol over at Warseer claims that UK Managers have seen DE plastics over at GW HQ. Take this with a HUGE bucket of salt, people are saying its not true.
Originally Posted by SamaNagol
Managers of UK Stores have seen DE plastics at head office during a course recently. GK models have not yet been seen by any of the store employees. This would imply that GK are still too far off to allow chatty managers to be shown them.
As 8th Ed Fantasy rulebooks are now in stores to read and pre-order for their mid-July release, and the Boxed Set has been confirmed as a September release, there will be a 40k Codex in October and it will be Dark Eldar firs
Some news for the GKs vs DE next codex battle. BOLS has posted some rumoured weapons profiles for the DE army.
Im starting to believe DE will be next with GKs to follow early next year. Argh, why cant they come out and tell us already
Its been a long quiet while on the Dark Eldar front, but here is a taste of rumored weapon stats that have been floating about out there:
Splinter Rifle: 12" S:2 AP:5 Rapid Fire, Poisoned (4+)
Splinter Pod: 18" S:3 AP:5 Assault 2, Poisoned (4+)
Splinter Cannon: 24" S:2 AP:5 Heavy 6, Poisoned (4+)
Still no solid word on schedule, but the smart money is now leaning toward a Dark Eldar unveiling at Games Day UK, with a full release in October on the heels of the Fantasy 8th boxed set.
~Standard caveats on all this stuff until copies of the Dark Eldar codex are in our greedly little hands, but there is a lot of food for thought in those stats. In particular I like the feel of an army using a standard sidearm with the stats that Splinter Rifle has. It would be the most distinctive basic weapon to hit the tabletop since the Tau Pulse Rifle. Time will tell how close to mark these may be.
Blue Table Painting has a video out on youtube where they talk about starter armies.
At 6:38 they mention that DH are coming out later this year so dont buy any of those yet, dont buy WH either but they just said they are too expensive (which is true).
They say DE are imminent so dont waste any money on those either.
YouTube- BTP Musings- Good 40K Armies for...
Was pointed to a thread over at Warseer, it seems Jervis responded to an email sent to him asking about the GK and SoB.
Take from it what you want, I did get the impression that DE are next from reading this. That they still have things to do on both GK and SoB but this is just me trying to read between the lines
Originally Posted by viking657
I just wanted to drop you a quick line to thank you for your recent letter, and apologise for the very late reply. Unfortunately the number of letters I recieve means that I can't reply personally to all of them, but I did want to let you know that I had recieved and read yours, and really appreciated the fact you took the time to write. Please don't hesitate to get in touch again; I read all of the mail I recieve and find it really helps to keep me in touch with the grass roots of the hobby.
Then its signed by Jervis
P.S Don't worry, neither the Grey Knights nor the Sisters have been forgotten. We have plans for both - its just that, like the Dark Eldar, it will take a while for these plans to reach fruition.
Found a new podcast that just came out with their first episode. Life After the Cover Save is a new podcast about 40k. They talk about 40k in general and at 38:45 they have a small news section where they mention they believe Dark Eldar are next.
So which is next? DE or Inquisition? All this waiting is driving me mad
Just listened to this audio book because its story also involves Sisters of Battle. The audio book refer to allot of things in 40k, like Codex Grey, Bolters, Pintle mounted weapons, flamers and heavy flamers, melta guns and bombs. It is accurate to the tabletop in EVERY regard...except for one thing. It mentions that Immolators have Inferno Cannons.
"A pair of Immolator battletanks spearheaded the Ecclesiarchy counterassault. Their Inferno cannons were short ranged but deadly."
Is this a hint of whats to come? The author not knowing what the Immolator is armed with even though everything else related to the tabletop is accurate? I dont know when Fireborn was actually made but its not that old. Could the author have gotten a preview look at what the Immolator will be armed with in the next codex?
Probably just a mistake on the authors part, then again I remember reading that the Hellhound tank was engineered to perfection from using the Immolator designs which were incomplete.
Dice Like Thunder has ep 90 out of their podcast about Warhammer 40k.
They believe Dark Eldar are next and scheduled for a Septemberish release.
Modelling-Mayhem is at it again. A few people were sceptical about what I found on their website and commented about it. So the Modelling-Mayhem guy made this reply.
This is in no way a confirmation the Inquisition is next, its just a reply to all the NaySayers (Read the first Horus Heresy book if you dont know this reference)
Originally Posted by modelling-mayhem View Post
I'd Happily put my house and money on the fact that WH and DH are up next! The foundations are already set for this...
Codex = Removed from sale
Models = Removed from sale
Everyone is chatting about DE or Crons next up and this month and that month blah blah!! But the one thing they are over looking is the fact that:
DE = still available on many Indie sites for sale - and no not just left over stock
Crons = Still available too!
Go figure!! I think we are set for DH and WH definately, and im more than happy to stand in defence of my opinion. Whether this will be a combined Dex or seperates I am not in the light but as far as the pdf's being released on GW site these are just 3rd ed.
If they were anything else then GW would have them placed in WD and charge us £4 to have a nosy at!!
Btw Hello Heresy : )
White Russian posted a link to some really awesome fan art today. Some believe it to be a GK codex cover, novel etc etc. I think its just a piece of fan art, its awesome none the less :D
Originally Posted by White Russian
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I may not be the brightest person with uber search-fu skillz, but can someone please shed light on this.
It looks to me like fan art, but why there are GW and 40k markings on that picture? Is this a novel or something else?
Bits and Kits believe DH and WH are next.
Im starting to get hopeful, I did past my Act of Faith roll with an 8 on a 3D6 (2D6 as normal, +1D6 for doubt and got 5,2 and a 1) roll last night so I still have some hope left.
Originally Posted by MadCowCrazy
Originally Posted by fynn View Post
well i dont want to disagree, but according to there website, and a thread over on dakdaka, theyve only just started stocking GW in the last month, so if that is the case, that got there DE stock from somewhere
Exactly, this is why I found it interesting. They havent even sorted out half the stuff they are going to be selling yet. So how were they able to get DE stock?
Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
All items that were available at the start of the year for indies are still order able now including the codex, the dark eldar are not next the DH and WH are next after deamons
Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
Hard to say, alot of what they are doing is standard procedure, models removed from the indie ordering list means one of three things, new box art,models moved to online only or new codex, but if the codex is removed from the order list at the same time as the core models then its a new codex situation.This has been the case for the last 2 and half years with only space marines being the exception and even then some of the model were unavaiable for a short period because of box art.
A few things are out of the ordinary, firstly this is happening to two ranges at the same time in the same game system and those two armies have close links,leading to speculation of a combined codex.
Secondly DH core troops are still available online from GW direct, this could mean they have alot of back stock or it could point to seperate codexs but released close together and its just the timing and nature of the sales that means they apear to be linked but infact GW knew with current sales level clearing the back log of DH would take longer than clearing the back log of WH stock.
Thirdly PDF codex's this to me is the biggest proof that they are coming next, the paper codex is gone so what better way to market a soon to be released army than to put the old out dated codex on to the website for free? that means anyone who may be interested in starting the army that does not current own the paper codex can read it for free which translates in to sales for the new paper codes when it is released, this type of technique is employed by retailers all the time, give a customer something for nothing that costs you nothing, hook them in with the freebie and reel them in.Dont forget GW survives by selling new products to new collectors,veterans who already own a DH or WH army are not GW target market,hard to understand but the maths is simple,if you have 2000 points of WH on your shelf you are not likely to purchase another 2000 points of models and a codex just because new model are released. When the eldar codex came out i replaced war walkers and wraithlords, everything else i liked but ignored.
This arena of selling to collectors is something GW are getting better at, unlike most other things in our world Minis are not really a disposable item and due to the nature of the animal most gamers look after there armies so breakages and natural wastage are very small,from a retail point of view that's a bad thing because it means you dont get many repeat sales on anything other than the consumable item like paint and glue, so GW need to make every new army appealing enough to make people want to collect more than one army (or in the case of appocalypse collect more of it)
Just a small tidbit. When talking about all this over at warseer I was pointed to this post
This was posted on the 20th of May, could it be that there is some truth to all of this? Only time will tell, if the codicies are 3ed all of this probably means nothing,
if they on the other hand are 5ed it would most likely mean a release is imminent.
Originally Posted by bitsandkits View Post
Not sure if anyone is interested or if its been mentioned before, but as an indie trader i can no longer purchase any WH of GK sets, not even the immolater, i think september is the most likely based on my conversation with trade sales today
I called them and got to talk to a very friendly guy. I asked him about the below statements and where he got them from. Basically he told me that he had a tradings account with GW (which all independent stockists have) and that he got the information from there.
When I asked about if he had seen anything about a combined codex he stated that from what he read there would be 2 codicies and that they are the next ones to be released.
Im going to be calling other webshops and different GW stores today to try and milk them for some infp :D This could prove to be a very interesting day.
Then again, maybe he misunderstood what he read, maybe what he saw was simply the PDF release of the old DH and WH codicies.
Im sceptical but maybe I will find something else out from my calls today.
I called Games Workshop and asked them about this.
The person I spoke to did not know where they might have heard these rumours but to his knowledge DH and WH are not get a new release anytime soon.
I asked him about the PDFs and he told me that they are scheduled to be released in the first week of June. I asked if they are updated for 5ed or not and he told me they should be.
He claimed that this was the first time GW has ever released codicies on the website (I reminding him of the old Blood Angel but he said that was not a true codex but the DH/WH will be) and that not much is being changed for them.
To be honest it sounds to me like he doesnt really know much about the release. I still think it will be 3ed but if they have updated rules for 5ed I will be really happy.
Called a GW store in Finland and asked them about the PDF.
I asked if it will be 5ed rules or 3ed rules, he said ofc it will be 5ed. I asked him from where he heard this and he told me "why would they release 3ed rules?"
I told him that people are speculating that it will simply be a copy of the 3ed codicies since you can no longer buy them, this made him change his mind.
He became unsure but was certain the rules would be up on the website soon.
Called a GW store in Sweden and asked about it. It seemed like the guy had never even heard about the PDF release so got nothing from him.
He did say he would expect the rules to be for 5ed but had no idea.
There is a new miniature webshop that has just opened business. This is their announcement thread over at DakkaDakka
The reason Im mentioning this new webstore is that they have some interesting things to say about Daemonhunters and Witchhunters, click to check it out.
Originally Posted by www.modelling-mayhem.co.uk
Games Workshop has released information stating that the next new army and codex is for Witch Hunters. So Modelling-Mayhem will list these items when the new stock is released. Keep checking back for updates!
Originally Posted by www.modelling-mayhem.co.uk
Games Workshop has released information stating that the next new army and codex is for Daemonhunters. So Modelling-Mayhem will list these items when the new stock is released. Keep checking back for updates!
If this is true or not who knows, but there is nothing like this mentioned for DE. They even have Dark Eldar FOR SALE, I have never seen a webshop offer this before. I thought it was direct only? Going to contact the shop and hear what they have to say, this could be interesting :D
I saw a poster refer to the below post over at WarSeer. From what I have gathered it seems DE are next but could there be any truth to this post?
With the fake rumours posted over at DakkaDakka Im very sceptical on unknown people posting rumours.
Many people have commented that Jervis and a few others have said there will be no combined codex (GK&SoB),
the rulebook mentions Forces of the Imperium rather than DH and WH. Could they have planned to combine them from the start?
I choose to be sceptical, you make up your own minds.
Originally Posted by Pushkin
1. I am aware that other reliable sources have said there will not be a combined codex
2. I am aware that GW staff don't always have access to the best information
3. I am just posting what i heard in a GW store, please no personal remarks.
My girlfriend asked about sisters of battle in a GW store today and was told by a staff member that they are being re-released in October following a presentation at Games Day. He said it would be a combined codex.
As i mentioned in my disclaimer above i am aware many reliable sources have stated that there will not be a combined codex. My GF was asking specifically after sister of battle and he said that they would be part of a combined codex. However, this does fit in with some other rumours that plastic grey knights are being released in October and the fact the Witchhunter and Daemonhunter codexs are going out of print and being moved online.
Anyway thats all i've heard. I don't know whether its true or not.
Bloodofkittens.com has some Dark Eldar Rumours going atm, it also mentions that DE are next and not GK.
Originally Posted by TastyTaste
Typically I leave the rumors to Bell of Lost Souls and Warseer. This time though I been made privy to some great news from a reliable source (at least he thinks he is reliable hehe) concerning the Dark Eldar. These rumors are a mix of new, along with greater clarity of old. So without further ado here is what I gots…
Three new skimmers
1. Vyper/Razorback hybrid transport with many weapon options.
2. “Fighter” designed to take out other skimmers.
3. “Bomber” designed for well bombing…
Mandrakes are in and have scout (duh)
Melta & Lance weapon confirmed str 6 12″ range.
Talos is in, specialized in killing Walkers.
Combat drugs are in and are “streamlined”
Army wide ability which is a cross between Red Thirst and Epidemius tally power (revolves around casualties inflicted)
No vehicle will have an AV higher than 11 (keeping with past editions)
Dark Eldar are a designed as an Alpha Strike army. If you can survive the first turn you will have a good shot of beating them.
Expect a Sept-Nov release. So put away your Nemesis Force Weapons they are not coming till Jan 2011 at the earliest.
As a reminder my site has never done these kinds of rumors before so take that as a warning. As well GW does change it’s mind on a whim. If this information does pans out expect more otherwise I will return to my regularly schedule douchery.
DarkLink over at BOLS has made a short rules rumour compilation for the GK.
Its nice to have it all in one place so if you havent seen them before here they are.
He even linked to this thread :D
Originally Posted by DarkLink
With the WH/DH rumor discussion approaching 80 pages and going strong, I figured I'd post a separate summary of relevant rumors, specifically regarding Grey Knights. Note that this is supposed to be a rough summary. I'm not quoting everything word for word, and I've condensed a lot of the rumors into a quick and easy list of things that may show up in the codex.
First off, because some people still seem to be obsessed with the idea of a combined Inquisition codex;
- Grey Knights and Sisters will be in a seperate codex.
This is from pretty much every single reliable source, and even from people such as Jervis. In fact, not too long ago I recall hearing that JJ said that a "combined inquisition codex is pure fanwank".
There may be a later, separate Inquisition codex or expansion covering all three Ordos. But that is not here, not yet.
As to when it will come out, no one seems to know. However, from recent comments by Harry, it looks like very late 2010, or early 2011. Can't get more precise than that, and no clue how it relates to the DE release.
With that out of the way, here's a summary (not verbatim. These are my words, here.):
-lots of psycannon vehicle upgrades
-GK Jetbikes possible
- Landspeeder variant possible, though Stickymonkey seemed unsure if this made it to the final design stages
-Artificer Armor instead of Power Armor is possible
Harry has mostly talked about when they're coming up, as has DPA.
Uther on GK forums
-Drop Pods (probably for Dreadnoughts) are in, with some sort of special variant
-Stern is dead in the fluff
-NFWs can Insta-kill Daemons
-GKs have some sort of Apothecary, but may be a special Character
Lastly, I'll link to MadCowCrazy's roundup, which is very detailed and has pretty much all the specific rumors and comments as they've come out posted: https://www.heresy-online.net/forums/...ad.php?t=55212
I'll try to add any big things that I see as they come out. If anyone sees anything that I missed, post it.