Counts-as lists are tricky. The nid list would work if you made a 'stealer cult army using the nids list and simply made the models look the part, no? Just no TMCs.
I'll drop the little spamfest after this, I just saw a few comments that were a little too... glaring to drop. Attacking me for what I say while ignoring half of the words I words is a pet peeve of mine.
Wow, Could you use any more cuss words? How old are you? 15? Do you have the capability to argue without cussing? Did I cuss at you? Was I derogatory towards you?
I appologize; I curse a great deal. This is a forum that allows cursing. I use f-bombs as a sometimes overused but always expressive part of the language. I'm sorry if it feels like a personal attack. It's really down to being to lazy to edit instances of the words out of my initial draft although initial draft makes it sound like there's any sort of quality control whatsoever, which would be a blatant falsehood
. If my unwillingess to filter that part of what I say out bothers you then I appologize and encourage to not take me as seriously.
People like you are what's wrong with this game. You come off as a crybaby uber power gamer child that used your parents money to buy an army you'll never paint and never really learn how to play. There's more to Khornate armies than jump pack Berserkers.
So, I'm a powergamer for arguing that other people
who would rather not play a powerfull but unfluffy list should be able to play a current list that matches their desired playstyle? Would you rather they play the 3.5 codex or something? This list apears powerfull in that configuration than a cult of Khorne list made from the chaos dex.
I don't play any MEQ armies. I stated that this was all in defense of players who wanted to do this. Calling me a power gamer because I defend behavior that does not benefit me in the slightest is rediculous. I'd rather people brought a good list to the table, no matter what they want to play. The fact that loyalists are getting all the love these days show not prevent Khorne from drinking Eldar blood.
Do I want other people to "powergame"? Yes. "Casual" games are all fine and good, but I'd like people to play to win. To me, that's fun. Even if they beat me.
Oh, and while you're at it please learn how to play your chaos codex. It is very effective and can still make nasty armies.
Where on earth did you get the impression that I play Chaos? I said that I don't.
I rarely get into flame wars but Cyklown started cussing when I simply stated the Chaos Codex could be very competitive. He needs to grow up a bit. Here's how to build a competitive Khornate army in 2000 points.
Kharn the Betrayer
2 units of Berserkers in Rhino
1 unit of Berserkers in a LR
2 units of 3 Oblits
If that's not close to 2000 points I'm sure you could get more fun stuff like a Lascannon Predator.
I already hit the cursing side of things, so:
I said competitive, not "amusing/cool and not entirely terribad". I'm not claiming it's a Wraithguard and Swooping Hawks theme army. I'm saying that if I'm actually trying to make a "good" army rather than a "fun army I'd be willing to play" then the chaos list does not allow you to play Khorne or really anything else particularly fluffy.
People who want to use jet-pack based assault OR cc monster MEQs currently have two lists available. They've both been made for loyalists.
In any case, the thought proccess runs to "this would be fun to field", while laudible, is not something that belongs in a discussion about viable lists. I'll play "fun" games too but if I'm not explicitly playing casually, I play to win. Which is, of course, different from being any good at it.
I hope the people I'm playing against will play to win. A different attitude doesn't stop us from playing the same game, or even from enjoying a game together from time to time. It should, however, stop you from talking about the competitive side of the game while your "just for fun" hat is on. You may very well be good without a competitive list, heck you're likely better at the tabletop side of the game than me. You'd be better if you added a bit more science rather than art to your army lists, however.
In any case, I'll take it up with you both in PM, if you want. There's no reason to make everyone else put up with my immaturity and your not reading what I say. ;)
Heck, depending on how things go we can maybe get a game in, if stomping a powergaming "chaos player"'s eldar army will make you feel better about me needing the most baddass list possible to try to win.