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post #131 of 320 (permalink) Old 12-27-09, 07:19 AM
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Awesome deathspitters are still good. No need to cut up my warriors.
Not as good as they were though
More power against single targets, but shorter range and not so good against horde.
On a positive note though, Venom Cannon are now good against infantry as well :D
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does anyone know what sything talons will do, i know it means you will be able to re-roll 1's to hit, but does that replace the +1 attack, which would make it pointless having screamer killers!!!!
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I am not sure if anyone has already said this but I noticed that on pg 57 of the January White Dwarf it says the points cost for the models in the particular army that will be playing the game using the rules from the new codex. So I can give you the following points costs:

Trygon - 200pts
Mawloc - 170pts
Gargoyles - 6pts
Hormagaunts - ? (there is listed 15 hormagaunts for 80 points which means they are 5.33 points each? Note: they are not listed with any biomorphs)
Deathleaper (lictor variant thingy) - 140pts
Hive guard - 50pts
Venomthropes - 55pts
Carnifex 'Straglethorn cannon' upgrade - assuming that the Carnifex is in fact 160 pts then the upgrade costs 20pts
Hive Tyrant with Heavy Venom Cannon, Old Adversary, Paroxysm and Leech Essence - 220pts
Tyrant Guard - 60pts

It was also mentioned on pg 26 that warp blast is now S10 AP1 Lance

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I am not sure if anyone has already said this but I noticed that on pg 57 of the January White Dwarf it says the points cost for the models in the particular army that will be playing the game using the rules from the new codex...
I found a link for that which could be found a page back, but for those that missed it the link is here

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Death Leaper better be fucking awesome for that many points...
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Death Leaper better be fucking awesome for that many points...
Well in the WD battle it appeared (I think it was outside of area terrain) ate a dreadnaught and then survived a turn of shooting from a land raider crusader.

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Stuff has finally started to roll in, BOLS gives the following details:
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Lots of reports coming in from overseas of 1st hand views of the codex at long last:
Here are some confirmed morsels to keep you on the edge of your seat:

Carnifex: WS:3 BS:3 S:9 T:6 W:4 I:1 A:4 Ld:7 Sv:3
Scary options such as the return of old-school bio-plasma which is now a 12" Plasma Cannon
Groups of 1-3 confirmed, +2 I when charging. Costed as Leman Russ Eradicator

Trygon: WS:5 BS:3 S:6 T:6 W:6 I:4 A:6 Ld:8 Sv:3
Its bioelectric field is a 12" S:5 AP:5 Assault 6 weapon.
It indeed deepstrikes and leave a marker behind that other tyranids can reserve through.
Costed as Baharroth.

Zoanthropes: WS:3 BS:4 S:4 T:4 W:2 I:3 A:1 Ld:10 Sv:5
Dual modes of fire are 24" S:5 AP:3 Assault 1 Blast, OR the 18" S:10 AP:1 Assault 1 Lance (move over Tau)
Unit sizes are 1-3 and they are Elites. Costed as a SM Predator.

Tyranid Warriors: WS:5 BS:3 S:4 T:4 W:3 I:4 A:3 Ld:10 Sv:4
Can be put in a landingspore, unitsize 3-9, costed as a CSM Termy.

SwarmLord: WS:9 BS:3 S:6 T:6 W:5 I:6 A:4 Ld:10 Sv:3
Causes Instant Death, Armed with quad boneswords, 4+ Invulnerable, Gives +1 to reserves.
Costed as a pair of Colossus.
Cred to BigRed @ BOLS !

I still hope, though more and more in vain it seems, that the Zoanthrope Railgun on 'roids is some kind of a bit worse then it looks....

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I'll admit I'm worried about the new tyrannids, but It seems Cruddance knows his stuff. The Trygon hole looks like a constricted version of deep strike, especially with the restriction of no assaulting the turn reserves arrive. The drop podding zoanthropes and carnifexes are what I think most armies will be worried about, but unless they have some AP 4 ignores cover weapons at range, I think my Tau can still out maneuver the Nids and escape.

It will be a bit of a slap in the face to be knocked off the top of the BFG totem pole, but it isn't the end of the world. Still am grumbling about the Zoanthropes being a terminator and one half in points. Most armies should have a way to cancel this, as it's a psychic power. Some of the older codices should be in the best shape, baring Space Wolves. The Inquisitorial model psychic hood (DH, WH, DA, ¿BA?) C:SM psychic hood, Runes of Warding, the Crucible of Malediction, and even Weaken Resolve should go a long way to stopping the psychic tank busters. I'll just trust in markerlights and rapid fire.

On a different note, I want to thank and congratulate all of my fellow Heretics for holding yourselves (for the most part) to a much higher level and not degenerating into the whining fest that BoLS comment threads tend toward.

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hmmm well the rumours have changed once again....
2 wounded zoanthropes? with no eternal warrior that looks a bit grim...
perhaps synapse does something else as well to make up?
And im sure they will keep some of the psychic good stuff that was in the last codex, no psychic test=no denial or something like that. I am disapointed that the rmours of burrowing tunnels cant assault after cdeepstriking (they are snakes oming out under you wanting to eat you after all).
But considering the rumours are just that, rumours, i wont hold my breath.

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Mate, this close to release date, these 'rumours' have probably been confirmed by someone who's seen the codex. They will be true, barring a few minor errors, which will be minor.

EDIT: I've put together a Rumour Roundup for the new Tyranids, just to make it easier to look at all the infomation

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