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A little understood piece of darkage technology as a doomsday device... I'm totally going to make an antique television or a refrigerator to count as a doomsday device!
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I honestly dont like the new baneblade variants. For one thing I think that they will become more commonplace than the baneblade simply cause their is more in the box which wouldnt fit the background and anything that leads to the massive proliferation of Strength D will just be annoying as hell. In addition it seems like the bulk of them are just made up so that they can justify having them in the box without doing anything really different from one of the existing tanks. Every one of them has a match in the list of Baneblade, Shadowsword, Stormblade, Hellhammer with possibly the exception of the transport. Literally all they did was put new names on annoying vehicles.

I wish they would do some smaller scale stuff for marines though. Most of what we got in reload is rules for formations that would cost over 1000 of dollars to collect.


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I honestly dont like the new baneblade variants. For one thing I think that they will become more commonplace than the baneblade simply cause their is more in the box which wouldnt fit the background and anything that leads to the massive proliferation of Strength D will just be annoying as hell. In addition it seems like the bulk of them are just made up so that they can justify having them in the box without doing anything really different from one of the existing tanks. Every one of them has a match in the list of Baneblade, Shadowsword, Stormblade, Hellhammer with possibly the exception of the transport. Literally all they did was put new names on annoying vehicles.

I wish they would do some smaller scale stuff for marines though. Most of what we got in reload is rules for formations that would cost over 1000 of dollars to collect.
Considering Marines already get more then half the updates and new models per edition I don't think they should get anything at all. And Guard need something new, yes there all just minor differences between them, but there different.

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The evil eye stompa is...really crappy.

Think about it. You can fit 6 deffkoptas inside a regular or big mek stompa, and 10 into a klawstompa, and they can all launch at once (if the same unit) and don;t have to make DT tests.

Whoever thought of that half assed copta gimmick really needed to read the apocalypse transport rules.

Aside from the spotter rule (meh, reroll on a 2+ to hit?) and a couple extra grot bombs, it;s really nothing special. Also they got the Supa Gattler stats wrong.

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I honestly dont like the new baneblade variants. For one thing I think that they will become more commonplace than the baneblade simply cause their is more in the box which wouldnt fit the background and anything that leads to the massive proliferation of Strength D will just be annoying as hell. In addition it seems like the bulk of them are just made up so that they can justify having them in the box without doing anything really different from one of the existing tanks. Every one of them has a match in the list of Baneblade, Shadowsword, Stormblade, Hellhammer with possibly the exception of the transport. Literally all they did was put new names on annoying vehicles.
Meh... each to their own, mate.

I agree that GW seems to be pulling this shit out of their tail-pipes. I mean, where are the Stormblades and the Stormhammers? Those are in Epic. Was the Hellhammer?

However, I still like these new things. They are interesting alternatives and will add variety to the super-heavy tanks out there. As for fluff, this is Warhammer 40K here. There are about a bujillion different varients on the toothbrush. The Aquila pattern toothbrush may be the most popular and common, but its a big universe.

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I wish they would do some smaller scale stuff for marines though. Most of what we got in reload is rules for formations that would cost over 1000 of dollars to collect.
Yeah... because the Masters of the Chapters and Marius Calgar's formation aren't small scale, very cost-efficient for free assets, and completely exclusive to marines. And 'small scale' seems completely counter to the very concept of apocalypse.



If you don't like em, make your own. Make it "Triangulum's Custom Marine Formation, because he doesn't think there are enough", and put in it whatever you want. We have this rather long and well loved thread dedicated to that sorta stuff.

Marines need more love and attention like the Sahara needs sand.

Well, that is my $0.03 worth (damn you weak american dollar!)
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The evil eye stompa is...really crappy.

Think about it. You can fit 6 deffkoptas inside a regular or big mek stompa, and 10 into a klawstompa, and they can all launch at once (if the same unit) and don;t have to make DT tests.

Whoever thought of that half assed copta gimmick really needed to read the apocalypse transport rules.

Aside from the spotter rule (meh, reroll on a 2+ to hit?) and a couple extra grot bombs, it;s really nothing special. Also they got the Supa Gattler stats wrong.


I wasn't aware you could put jetbikes inside transports period. This would make me very interested and happy. Do you have a reference showing you can do this? Other than the current Datafax that specifically indicates it.
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I wasn't aware you could put jetbikes inside transports period. This would make me very interested and happy. Do you have a reference showing you can do this? Other than the current Datafax that specifically indicates it.
The Apocalypse book itself shows in the back that pretty much anything can be transported bar other super heavy vehicles. Non-infantry units can only be transported by super heavy transports, though. So no need to worry about a Dreadnought cramming himself into a Rhino or something.
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The Apocalypse book itself shows in the back that pretty much anything can be transported bar other super heavy vehicles. Non-infantry units can only be transported by super heavy transports, though. So no need to worry about a Dreadnought cramming himself into a Rhino or something.
Well, Drat. No superheavy Eldar Transports. That precludes the Guardian Jetbike Strike Force.

Though a Swarm of DethCoptas coming from the Ork Submerible is...intriguiging.
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p198 of Apocalypse (near the back cover), right above the allies matrix.

Unless otherwise specified, super-heavy transports can carry almost anything. The chart shows how many normal infantry models it costs to carry a model of a given type

Infantry (25mm round base), Artillery (crew) = 1
Infantry (larger than 25mm round base), Jump Infantry = 2
Cavalry/Beast, Bike/Jetbike = 3
Artillery (gun) = 5
Monstrous Creature, Walker = 10
Other Vehicles = N/A unless specified

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