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It's clear enough to see they look better than the Wulfen.
It's always the poses I'm looking for. GW cares a lot about the detail of their models, but some of the 'one pose only' stuff is...well....shit terrible.

Real question to everyone:

Do you care at all about the alleged mini-game or is it all just for the minis?

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I like the idea that it's a boxed game with minis usable in the overall game. I've always loved that aspect.
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It's always the poses I'm looking for. GW cares a lot about the detail of their models, but some of the 'one pose only' stuff is...well....shit terrible.

Real question to everyone:

Do you care at all about the alleged mini-game or is it all just for the minis?
That's true. I liked modeling my Death Company slash makeshift Sternguard a lot more than tactical marines for that very reason. My Skitarii Vanguard were also annoying because every model had a specific leg, arm and two-piece torso combination (and I realized that after cutting everything off the sprue and laying them out to glue together like an assembly line. Took me all damn night to sort it out).

I'm more interested in a minigame. I have enough to worry about with my AdMech army to build.
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Real question to everyone:

Do you care at all about the alleged mini-game or is it all just for the minis?
Which brings the question round again.

How can we incorporate these minis? Calth was easy; you could mass produce armies out of what they give you. And Execution Force gave you four models, and each had statlines.

But what will this do?

Assuming it's 10 very unique models in a Kill Team/Mordheim style, they'd be good for conversions, but on small scale because you're getting one of each chapter per box. Great if you want to convert, for instance, a Dark Angels Champion, but these kit seems less than useful for a 'squad' of Deathwatch out of sternguard, like most were hoping for.

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And Execution Force gave you four models, and each had statlines.
I guess those Chaos models aren't included anymore?

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But what will this do?
This could be playable as a Formation or as a throwback to the Last Chancer's Dirty Dozen kinda theme. Playing them as basically anything else would be pretty god damned lame since (at present) two models have jump packs and want close combat and everyone else wants to stand and shoot.

I think they would entirely work better in a game situation on their own, just like how the Last Chancers used to be. Hmm.....maybe I rework those rules into 7th edition....

I'm actually kinda loving that @Mr. Jar and @Tyriks are stoked on the game. I know 5-8 people with the Calth box that don't even know how many game tiles came with it

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To be honest, I don't care about the models (30k all the way!). However, if it is a mini-game ala-Space Hulk and comes with Space Hulk-esque tiles, I'll be picking one/a few up for some Zone Mortalis battles tiles.

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I'll be picking one/a few up for some Zone Mortalis battles tiles.
This is what was recently suggested in my group as a use for the Calth tiles. Now I want to cut 3" foam into channels and make my own ZM table...it could be so much fun!

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I guess those Chaos models aren't included anymore?
I assume they are. But at the time, it was the only way to get the assassins, so who cared?

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This could be playable as a Formation or as a throwback to the Last Chancer's Dirty Dozen kinda theme. Playing them as basically anything else would be pretty god damned lame since (at present) two models have jump packs and want close combat and everyone else wants to stand and shoot.
I never even considered the ramifications of different movement options. It's a good point. But I don't think it will be a unit. I really think that this formation will tell you to play the 10 characters as just that. Characters. Not ICs, not as a unit, but as 10 individual models who CANT join other squads, etc. Each one with lots of special wargear and stuff.

The kicker will be whether the formation will end up needing so many books to use, because maybe the DA champion uses DA wargear, while the Wolf has his own, etc etc.

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The kicker will be whether the formation will end up needing so many books to use, because maybe the DA champion uses DA wargear, while the Wolf has his own, etc etc.
I seriously doubt that. GW is, for better or worse, trying to make things playable out of the box. If these aren't reserved for a mini-game I would surmise that they would come with a datasheet containing the full rules for such characters in their packaging or in a White Dwarf.

It would be absolutely painful to need four Codices to play ten models, and the BA model at least has a hand flamer which is book-specific I believe.

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