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The price is not going up. Apparently that was printed before they decided to lower the price, though time will tell.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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I bought myself my box today. I think I'm gonna do a Shadow Crusade mixture of Word Bearers and World Eaters as I already have Angron. Perhaps I can get Lorgar in the future when they update him with a better looking model.
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no point hanging on to them chaps , they are not limited, get them built and enjoy the minis, excellent quality and value for money.



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Does the Betrayal At Calth box come complete with details of weapon options and points cost for the tactical squad and terminators for using in 30k (similar to what is found in a 40k codex)? If not where would I find these is there more than one book I would need from Forge World? Thanks in advance
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No they don't have the 30k rules. Depending on the legion you'll need:

- Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List (for all Legions)

- Legiones Astartes Isstvan Campaign Legions (For Sons of Horus, World Eaters, Death Guard, Emperor's Children, Night Lords, Salamanders, Iron Hands, Iron Warriors, Raven Guard, Alpha Legion and Imperial Fists)

- Book 5: Tempest (For Ultramarines and Word Bearers)

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Thanks Deus Mortis,

I have 40k Ultramarines and Dark Angels so does the "Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List (for all Legions)" include Ultramarines and Dark Angels?

Or do I need to get Book 5: Tempest for Ultramarines & book 6 for the Dark Angels?

I could always use the figures to boost my 40k armies instead.
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Is the 30K Forge World Horus Heresy game supposed to be played with the 6th edition of W40K, or is it fully compatible with the 7th ?

It seems that scoring units are less frequent than in the 7th (and that "Objective secured" does not exist, for instance).

On the opposite, Malefic Daemonology appears in "Book 5 : Tempest" (for Zardu Layak), but is only cited there. I suppose that it means that he is the only character allowed to summon daemons in the whole game (even Diabolists with Burning Lore are limited to Biomancy and Telepathy) ?

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The Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List includes all the generic units any legion can take. Tempest has the special units, special rules and special wargear for the Ultramarines and Book 6 will have at least the special rules for the Dark Angels although at this stage it's not clear whether it will have the units or wargear unique to the Dark Angels.

The Horus Heresy books are full compatible with 7th Ed, however there are a few alterations made for games set in the Age of Darkness. You are correct that Objective Secured doesn't exist, only troops and units with Implacable Advance (HH unique special rule) count as scoring. Unbound doesn't exist, and there are 3 'standard' FOC you can use (although I forget the exact layout of all of them and I don't have the books in front of me at the moment).

As for Malefic Daemonology, I believe that Tempest says that all Word Bearer psykers have access to Daemonology. However, I'm not 100% certain about that so I will check my copy of Tempest when I get home.

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As Deus Mortis has said. To rephrase it, you need the Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List, no matter what Legion you run. That has the rules for Praetors, Tactical Squads, Contemptors, Support Squads; everything that isn't a unique Legion unit. After that, you'll want one other book for your Legion's rules; Isstvan Campaign Legions for a codification of all the Legion rules so far other than Ultramarines and Word Bearers, which are in Book 5: Tempest (I think Word Bearers did have rules in one of the previous books, primarily for their non-Chaotic units such as the Ashen Circle, but were updated, expanded and codified in Tempest).

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Thanks again Deus Mortis & MidnightSun,

I understand now what I would need to get - I'll maybe try the Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List first as it is a lot less expensive than Book 5 as I am still not certain whether to go down the 30k route yet or whether to use these figures for my 40k ultramarines.

I was thinking of getting the Forge World Ultramarines Invictarii Heads & Torsos upgrade set to convert one tactical squad - anyone else doing this or any other ideas on modifying?

Thanks in advance.
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