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post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-14-15, 10:35 PM
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GW making sure Speess Maweenz get a little rule to help them in a phase they lose in against a couple of particular armies.
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Normally I agree with you Orochi, but have you played in the last ~10 years or are you pulling that out your arse to get a raise out of people?



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Are we talking about the same Detachment?
We are, and I don't know why I let myself be convinced that it's one of each of those units.

I still maintain that a CF sternguard army wouldn't be a good idea out of the archangel detachment though because you don't have Kantor (and ObSec), chapter tactics, or any of the other awesome stuff from the new SM codex...like WS/BS4 scouts as your 'troop tax' in a CAD and this new formation here that allows you to buff your devs even more than the IF tactics do and assault marines that, within this formation, put those in red to shame.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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Just another fucking GW rehash job.

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Just another fucking GW rehash job.
Are you refering to the rules that they are basically MUCH better version of Deathwing Assault.
Actually after this formation if they don't make DWA better I really don't see the point of fielding any DW terminators. This formation is just so good...
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Normally I agree with you Orochi, but have you played in the last ~10 years or are you pulling that out your arse to get a raise out of people?
Normally it is the second option, but in this case it is actually the first. I have avoided playing for a long, long time.

Purely the hobby/creative side for me nowayears.
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This formation is just so good...
I think this is my beef with it. GW gives fuck all about balance I know, but this makes other army builds (that, for all intents and purposes, should at least be able to pull this off if not excel at it) look even worse than they did before.

At least the DA book can/will get updated with these things in mind (hopefully). I look forward to a binder full of printed off formations that I hunted in internet for to play my BA as competitively as this.

Or I could just play more guitar. Might just do that.

Unfortunately Canada got rid of the penny and now my two cents rounds down to zero, so...take it for what you will.

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I take it this can't be used by BA, DA or SW?
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I take it this can't be used by BA, DA or SW?
Correct - It's Codex: Space Marines only.
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Correct - It's Codex: Space Marines only.
Have you seen it? I can't find this statement anywhere on "leaked" screenshot page ;)
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