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A Detachment is a set of rules with benefits. Such as a Combined Arms Detachment. A Formation is a sub-unit, which doesn't really affect the primary list at all... they're just along for the ride.

The Decurion Detachment skips using a Combined Arms or whatever, and its benefit is that it doesn't give two craps about the standard FOC. It uses these special 'Auxillary' units instead. You don't take 0-3 Elites, you take 3 Deathbringer Flights, 2 Flayed Ones, and a Judicator Battalion. For example. I also heard a rumor that you give up Objective Secured for Rerolling 1s on the protocols.

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Except detachments can't be made of formations and that clearly has a formation in it.
Does the rulebook specifically state that? And if it does, does the Necron Codex say nothing to override that?

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That's no rumor Xabre, it's on one of the pictures we've seen.

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Does the rulebook specifically state that? And if it does, does the Necron Codex say nothing to override that?
pg 120 talks about Detachments and says they're part of a Battle Forged army and shows the Combined Arms Detachment.

Formations are then listed on 121, in their little black box, as a special kind of detachment. So yeah, not going INSIDE of another FOC. It'll go inside another formation which will serve as an overarching detachment with different restrictions, but it's not going inside of a CAD or whatever the Necron one may be.

Seriously, we've had formations since 6th and people are still arguing how they work? They aren't that hard.
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Well, you know the community @Zion . People still argue that Forge World isn't really GW, among other things. My favorite argument is on dakkadakka, where one player argues that the digital codices aren't "official" rules because they aren't a physical copy he can flip through.


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My favorite argument is on dakkadakka, where one player argues that the digital codices aren't "official" rules because they aren't a physical copy he can flip through.
So my Sisters aren't official? WHAT.
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So my Sisters aren't official? WHAT.
You aren't the only one. My Sisters are pure homebrew it would seem. Want to form a club Z?

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You aren't the only one. My Sisters are pure homebrew it would seem. Want to form a club Z?
Good thing homebrew is still legal anyways.

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The decurion detachment will not be a Necron only thing. The standard FOC
was designed with the Space Marine company structure in mind, and GW has
been toying around with new ways to building fluffy armies. Looking back
the Archangel Strikeforce from Shield of Ball, this can can be seen as a
prototype for a decurion detachment.

IG will be getting their own decurion in a dataslate some time in the
future, and the Necron force from IA12 will be getting one as well. Expect
2-6 warriors, 1-6 flayed ones, and 1-3 charnel scarabs, but this is just
speculation.

Expect more decuron formations to pop up in expansions and future codex
updates, but don't think FOC charts are going away. Decurion formations
will become the new "fluffy" lists; options that more closely adhere to the
quirks and idiosyncrasies of specific Warlords or factions.

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So it sounds like a rumor to tell us what we know: more custom and varied FOCs are coming.
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I like the idea of varied FOC options. If the benefits are legitimate and there is good synergy among the various units, that could be a very neat way of making the less-than-desirable units worth taking now and then. It also gives GW the opportunity to give us new army options without the cost involved with writing and publishing books. The potential for even more dataslates and the frustration involved in keeping track of them all isn't all that exciting, though.


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While I agree, too many books always been an issue with the game.
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