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Qustoris looks like it's made with Necron/Tau technology.


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Urgh, release the damn Leman Russ Volkite Carronades already. Meanwhile, I really do like the look of those artillery pieces. Not too sure on the Dracosan, however.

And 3.40 a model for Auxilia? As opposed to 1.80 Ouch... And going by FW ppm for 30K, a larger squad will be cheaper than an equivalent size 40k platoon. I do like the multi-laser pintles.

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70 for 20 guard Ouch, thats a shame because i really like the models. The tanks are a bit strange looking though

In my opinion FW should really rethink their prices if they are offering whole armies rather than one off center piece models. They are not made of gold and other companies making resin are nowhere near that price.
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The vorax look amazing, but I'm already trying to picture a bit I could use to replace the heads... maybe cyberwolves or something like that that's less insectile.

I wanna see the stats for this new Questoris, so I can decide which one I get as the centerpiece for a Mechanicum army.

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I've never understood how they can price Guardsmen at that much when they know for a fact you need a lot more of them than you would space marines for example.
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The forgeworld site is being... frustrating. Where can I buy that IA vol 13 etc, plus maybe a T-shirt or 2?.... Ok, 10 T-shirts. Don't judge me.

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The forgeworld site is being... frustrating. Where can I buy that IA vol 13 etc, plus maybe a T-shirt or 2?.... Ok, 10 T-shirts. Don't judge me.
I think the t-shirts are only available at events, I'd love them to but not going to warhammer fest out of protest :/ The IA Vol 13 will be made available to order at some stage as it's not event only.
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As a quick comparison;

Legiones Astartes Tactical Squad = 12.5ppm, 5 Man Tactical Squad, x4 = 132 = 6.60/model = 0.53 per point
2x Astra Militarum Infantry Squad = 5ppm, 1 20 man Solar Auxilia Squad = 68 = 3.40/model = 0.68 per point

In this most basic form, there is a ~35% mark up on Solar Auxilia units - and Space Marines have the "advantage" of spending more points on smaller squad sizes (2x 10 Man squads is 15ppm, making it even cheaper), and with access to things like Primarchs (Horus is 62, and 500pts - or ~0.12 per point).

Solar Auxilia just aren't cost effective, when you consider that their tanks are also that much cheaper - basilisks are what? 115-125pts for a BS3 version? There's 0.48 per point, compared to something like a Spartan - which for 101 can hit 390pts - or 0.26 per point.

I've never really looked into it that deeply, but holy shit - a 35%+ mark up for comparative prices? And I thought 30K was expensive enough.



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As a quick comparison;

Legiones Astartes Tactical Squad = 12.5ppm, 5 Man Tactical Squad, x4 = 132 = 6.60/model = 0.53 per point
2x Astra Militarum Infantry Squad = 5ppm, 1 20 man Solar Auxilia Squad = 68 = 3.40/model = 0.68 per point

In this most basic form, there is a ~35% mark up on Solar Auxilia units - and Space Marines have the "advantage" of spending more points on smaller squad sizes (2x 10 Man squads is 15ppm, making it even cheaper), and with access to things like Primarchs (Horus is 62, and 500pts - or ~0.12 per point).

Solar Auxilia just aren't cost effective, when you consider that their tanks are also that much cheaper - basilisks are what? 115-125pts for a BS3 version? There's 0.48 per point, compared to something like a Spartan - which for 101 can hit 390pts - or 0.26 per point.

I've never really looked into it that deeply, but holy shit - a 35%+ mark up for comparative prices? And I thought 30K was expensive enough.
And that is why I tend to play armies that are either heavily vehicles, or giant robots like Tau. I've never liked armies with lots of models, mostly from the wallet perspective. High Elves were bad enough with all those archers.

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