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post #521 of 541 (permalink) Old 08-09-14, 06:20 PM
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Nope, they are just elites now.

Edit: Unless I am missing it somewhere, he is the only one that can take his chariot also.

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To be honest, Grimnar making Wolf Guard into troops would be stupidly good, although it would be a good example of codex creep as Ravenwing get ousted by White Scars who get ousted by Wolf Guard Bikers (and if you want a laugh, compare the Deathwing Standard and the Wolf Standard).

I'm undecided. Space Wolves now look like Codex: Space Marines, except everyone is also better and can bring melee options but at the cost of some of the utility (no Combat Squads; I haven't seen anything about reserve manipulation yet; and the Tempest Discipline doesn't look as good as Biomancy, Telepathy or Divination on Tigurius).

They look like they'll deliver a really, really nasty alpha strike as a Drop Pod army, and then keep on hitting you all game. Hopefully Blitza-Bommas will really come into their own as dropping a Str7 AP2 Large Blast seems a good way to get rid of their infantry, but I'll have to experiment.

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@MidnightSun :
There is some reserve manipulation, if you take the SpaceWolves Detachment as your ForceOrg.: Every turn (except turn 1) you can choose one unit in reserve to automatically pass its reserve-roll. So you have a little more control, and can make sure that units arrive if you really need them..

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There is some reserve manipulation, if you take the SpaceWolves Detachment as your ForceOrg.: Every turn (except turn 1) you can choose one unit in reserve to automatically pass its reserve-roll. So you have a little more control, and can make sure that units arrive if you really need them..
Oh, they have a detachment? I was aware of their Formation but I didn't know about a Detachment, that sounds pretty darn good then.

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Oh, they have a detachment? I was aware of their Formation but I didn't know about a Detachment, that sounds pretty darn good then.
Yap. The Detachment basically looks like the one from BRB, only you need at least 2 HQs and can have up to 6 (!!). The Rest is as usual.
It allows you to reroll your Warlord Trait (business as usual), and before the game starts, you can roll a D6 for every unit of the Detachment (add +2 if it is a Troop choice, joined by a character). If you roll a 6, the unit gets outflank. And then finally, the guaranteed reserve roll every round.
Of course, you do not get "objective secured" with this detachment, that would be a bit much...
I can think of quite a few lists that could be really fun with this ;)

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I took my Deathwing list (Belial, 2 7 man Deathwing with 3 TH/SS assault Cannon LC, 1 4 man Deathwing 2 TH/SS LC, Deathwing Command Squad Fortitude Banner HF 3 TH/SS) with Ulrik the Slayer 10 man Grey hunters w/ Melta guns plasma pistol drop pod and rocked some Necrons. Ulrik took out a squad of 5 Warriors without breaking a sweat. I am really excited about the potential of this codex.
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Just seen the new model for Logan.

A floating chariot pulled by wolves?

Fucking Stupid.
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The Codex and the rest of the new stuff are on pre-orders now.
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I think the reaction to the chariot is a bit much to be honest. The concept isn't that bad, it isn't even as if they wolves really pull the chariot, they're there as attack dogs as much as anything else.

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As long as the SW players like it it's all that matters.
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