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post #471 of 642 (permalink) Old 05-21-14, 07:39 AM
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Tyranids and Necrons should be allowed to ally. "Allies of mutual disinterest" - aka. if they ran onto a battlefield, they'd make any other army a priority kill.

Also annoyed at the lack of options for Dark Eldar. Chaos should be an option for convenience. But we all know it's just a "streamlined" GW way of saying "yeah we're too lazy to isolate the Chaos factions by god, we're not allowing Chaos + DE because it might be Slaanesh."

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I like the new look of this new allies list. It seems to get rid of a lot of problems (depending on the actual allies rules).

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I like the new look of this new allies list. It seems to get rid of a lot of problems (depending on the actual allies rules).
But it is a PitA to read....

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Oh I missed the bit that says: "Any faction can ally with any other" and come the apocalypse doesn't mean you cannot ally anymore...

So guard and DE can still ally with Chaos but with"some serious downsides". I want to know what these downsides are exactly with Come the Apocalypse alliances..
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Tyranids and Necrons should be allowed to ally..
Seems like you will be able to if you read the article above..
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Oh I missed the bit that says: "Any faction can ally with any other" and come the apocalypse doesn't mean you cannot ally anymore...

So guard and DE can still ally with Chaos but with"some serious downsides". I want to know what these downsides are exactly with Come the Apocalypse alliances..
There was a rumour somewhere back at Natfka saying it's -2 Ld for units within 12" and they have to take a morale check or else fall back. Even fearless units. But take it with a chunk of salt.

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Guys, if you want to make a ten-army fustercluck that badly, the FOC doesn't affect you. Just play Unbound and stop complaining that the Allies chart has been improved - yeah, ok, now GK get Battle-Brothers with stuff and Wolves/DA or whatever is allowed, but Taudar and Fishmarines are dead and gone and honestly, what were the *really powerful* Allied combinations that didn't involve Tau or Eldar? Beaststar is still around for the few months until they re-write Dark Eldar, but now Fortune can be countered through throwing all of your Warp Charge at it, so it becomes far less reliable (it's hardly unheard of for players to not even roll up Fortune and forfeit then and there, so adding an extra level of defence against it has a pretty strong impact).

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I don't get why imperial space marines and chaos cant ally, they are both marines so I thought they would get along?

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I don't get why imperial space marines and chaos cant ally, they are both marines so I thought they would get along?

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