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post #41 of 70 (permalink) Old 12-31-13, 06:00 PM
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Im pretty sure they're just consolidating the expansions and streamlining the rules a bit... And simply labeling it 7th edition... It'd be pretty ridiculous of GW to do and entirely updated set of rules such a short time after the release of 6th ed. I'm hoping they make it worth the $$...

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Im pretty sure they're just consolidating the expansions and streamlining the rules a bit... And simply labeling it 7th edition... It'd be pretty ridiculous of GW to do and entirely updated set of rules such a short time after the release of 6th ed. I'm hoping they make it worth the $$...
Even if they kept the 6th label on it, I'd actually be interested in that as I just have the rulebook from DV, getting a streamlined "contains errata, plus expansion" book would actually justify the cost of the book for me. BUT as posted above, keeping the expansions separate makes them more money than rolling them in would, which makes rolling them together a bad business decision.
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The main rulebooks are finished at least 9 months before release. White Dwarf is submitted 3 months in advance of each WD release, and is worked on for a month before that. The Studio rarely does anything spontaneously. It simply isn't possible. 40K 7th will have had ideas being thrown around for months already, whilst work on fantasy happened. It's already being drafted and prodded, and the last three codex releases before the next main rulebook release are written solely with the next rulebook in mind. For 6th, it was from Grey Knights onwards. People just don't seem to grasp how far ahead of release the Studio works - it's really hard at Games Days to try and remember what hasn't been released yet, and how you painted something that - whilst only just released - you painted over a year ago...
With the current release speed of codexes I would be surprised if there was a need to have the 3 codex buffer. We should have most if not all codexes replaced well in advance of the next probable release. Unless of course GW shorten the 7th edition release cycle.

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They aren't writing the codeces any quicker. The periods for production are still the same. The books are still written with months to spare - they just have more people writing them. Tyranids will still havee been finished 6 months ago, with saturdays WD having been written 3 months ago.

So any codeces released in the period between 9-12 months before the release of a new edition will still have been written with the future release in mind...

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We should have most if not all codexes replaced well in advance of the next probable release.
I really, really hope you're right. This 2-editions-behind nonsense must end before a new release. Update the rules, reprint some books, whatever. Just update the older armies! Noooow! *infant squeal*

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They aren't writing the codeces any quicker. The periods for production are still the same. The books are still written with months to spare - they just have more people writing them. Tyranids will still havee been finished 6 months ago, with saturdays WD having been written 3 months ago.

So any codeces released in the period between 9-12 months before the release of a new edition will still have been written with the future release in mind...
That's a good point that I just glossed right over at first. If that's the case, I guess a simultaneous release would be fine. Of course they aren't gonna release new books that will be instantly outdated. Either way, bring on the changes. I wanna see Orks become the new Tau in terms of cheese. They deserve it.

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Even if they kept the 6th label on it, I'd actually be interested in that as I just have the rulebook from DV, getting a streamlined "contains errata, plus expansion" book would actually justify the cost of the book for me. BUT as posted above, keeping the expansions separate makes them more money than rolling them in would, which makes rolling them together a bad business decision.
Not necessarily. Consider that the most sales for the expansion books will be when they are first released, then after that sales will slow down considerably. If they want to make more money, just package those books into a new book that is basically the same thing only in one book, and you can release that and make just as much money as you did when the expansions were released, except you're releasing basically the same thing twice. Making twice as much for the effort of writing the expansions once.

And if 7th edition is basically errata and expansions in a single book, then maybe they want to allow the people who have already bought 6th edition to be able to keep using their book, so they keep selling the expansions separately.

Doesn't seem to bad of a business decision now.

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They aren't writing the codeces any quicker. The periods for production are still the same. The books are still written with months to spare - they just have more people writing them. Tyranids will still havee been finished 6 months ago, with saturdays WD having been written 3 months ago.

So any codeces released in the period between 9-12 months before the release of a new edition will still have been written with the future release in mind...
Yeah, from what I gathered was they had about 20% more people on the design staff in FY13. Time will tell if those extra bodies get retained in the long run, but it's definitely not about a compressed product timeline. It's just about more products being worked on at any given time.

Given the volume that GW ships, they still need months to make sure they have printed enough stock, casted enough models, packaging, etc. There's a ton of work that goes into a new product release, especially if it is combined with loads of new models.

My only big hope for Orks is that they go back to being shooty like they were in 2nd Edition. Close-combat Ork armies were a byproduct of 3rd Edition's heavy bias towards melee resolution and faster movement. I'd love to see them get bumped back up to BS3 (with the appropriate points increase) and a lot of what made old school Ork armies awesome come back.

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Yeah, from what I gathered was they had about 20% more people on the design staff in FY13. Time will tell if those extra bodies get retained in the long run, but it's definitely not about a compressed product timeline. It's just about more products being worked on at any given time.
Getting more codex/armybook writers & designers has been a long term plan that has gone tits up before due to a lot of experienced people leaving just as the plan was going into effect

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